they dont really effect me on the bike but the car, jeeze, i want to run them over to be honest, fhad one the other day squeeze past me on the left just as i was about to go left, after he had undertaken about 20 cars,

had twolads on pushbikes just go from the pavemtn to the road, no looking what so ever, if i was goign any faster they would have been on my bonnet

and one other thing i hate is when youve been stuck behind 5 or 6 cars that are behind a cyclist, you eventully get past, come to a traffic light, they go up to the front, and now we got to do it all over again,

I was waiting at the front of traffic lights on my sv a few weeks ago - the lights went green, and then a dumb blonde on her cycle suddenly wobbled across my path as i was about to pull away. Maybe she thought she was entitled to because she was in a green box. She was clearly oblivious to the fact that i could have squashed her at any minute. I'm sure who whould've got the blame!

I planned to discuss her cycling / road skills at the next set of red lights - but of course she sailed straight through them, without a care in the world.

I abhor London cyclists - and this is coming from someone who bicycles to work in the West End every day!

On my commute I have noticed that the cops are cracking down on those cyclists who jump red lights etc., which can only be a good thing.

i always use those green boxes, even with cop cars around. I figure they're there so car drivers can see the cyclists, and they can pull away in to a safe road position first. But seen as how car drivers are so oblivious to m/c and i'm just as vulnerable as a cyclists i see no harm in using them :)
i've seen little mirrors cyclists can get on the end of their handle bars - great idea! when i rode a bike through manchester the other day i couldn't stop myself constantly checking behind me. nutters!

The average speed of a vheicle in london is about 12mph.

I would lay money on the fact that pulling away from the lights a cyclist who is cycling at anyway near a moderate pace will beat just about anything to that speed(beyond that obviously not).

As for passing the cyclinst and having them swerve into you. As northwind pointed out perhaps you need to give them a wider berth in future in the same way that when things pass you, you'd like them to show you the same level of consideration.

Just because you dont like them doesnt mean it was totally there fault :wink:

Thats AVERAGE.

Average speed of me pulling away from the lights in London - doing the limit by the other side of the road - so about 2 to 3 seconds.

Like to see a cyclist beat that.

I have worked out WHY cyclists dont have a license.

The thing the Highway code says with regards to maneouvers is that they "should not cause other traffic to alter speed or direction" (or words to that effect) in fact you will fail your test if you cause someone else to brake.

Last night I had a **** on a bike flap his right arm briefly before moving from a bus lane into the right hand lane round The Oval heading south, causing me to drop speed from 25-30 to 10-15 because it was also his intention to do a right turn across traffic at a pedestrian crossing that has a cycle path just beyond it.

Also look at the number of times busses are slowed by them in Bus Lanes.

So therefore I put it forward that the reason bikes are un-licensed is that they would be back off the road with a ban within the day

David

Likewise, if anyone does ever give you grief over using them, point out that you are on a 'bicycle'. Check your road tax slip- the sv650 is a '645cc bicycle', allegedly! ;)

I agree with all of this. I think cyclists' should be liable for the actions they take - especially when they go through red lights, down one-way streets the wrong way have no lights on at night etc. However it should be to protect the cyclist as much as other road users. I have started cycling into work and would like to argue that I stick to the rules of the road. I tend to find that even though I indicate to turn, change lane etc. Most people ignore my signal and overtake me as I am manouvering.

Generally speaking though, I find most cyclists don't give a flying f**k about road laws/rules and I would like to see something put in place to force them to.

I hear you, and yes, by the time she'd wobbled all over the middle of the road, I was too close to her - or was she too close to me, I forget. :?

Okay, potholes can represent a significant hazard to cyclists, maybe even more hazardous than pulling infront of me or anyone else. However, particularly in London, cyclists are a law unto themselves - not that this gave me the right to nearly knock her off (on the contrary). However, it does suggest to me that there's little respect for others that use the road, or an appreciation that most of the time they're in someone else's way.

Today she got in my way by doing something I couldn't predict. Perhaps I could've been going slower, I could've given her more room, I could have not tried to overtake her and continued at 3mph for the next 40 metres to the traffic lights... as it was, I think I was acting like any other London driver.

I learnt something today, but I think she probably learnt more.

I bet you a pound she learned nothing :)

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