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Originally Posted by Baph (Post 1147492)

Dave

:smt082

M Paton??, didnt you come on a ride out once with us round Hawes??, im sure i remember you, you were the funny one wearing the womens pants who told me he was a pilot?, or was that someone else?, not sure now ive thought about it, might have been a different ride out altogether

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Originally Posted by sarah (Post 1147480)

doesn't matter what your intention(s) was/were. you just have to be "deemed to be trolling".

God help me, given my history with Martin on this forum in the past, I cant believe Im going to do this.

If you want trolling, go to visordown. Im sure you'll last 2 seconds with the professional trolls on there. Trolling there is an art form where you have someone who in every biker down thread starts on people for replying. Thats deliberate and he knows full well the response he will get because he does the same thing every single time.

Martin, is not in the same league and while you perceive it as trolling trust me, he aint that bad.

Do not confuse trolling with someone who is blunt, tactless, undiplomatic, harsh and to the point with their posts ;) :p. Thats simply a posting style that you react negatively to. Imo all Martin has done is display a lack of empathy and sensitivity but has the right to express his opinion like everyone else.

God help us all if we are to be banned for our failings as human beings and come across the wrong way on a forum its so easy to be taken the wrong way too.

If your suggestion to make it that easy is all it takes, this forum would be very empty as a fair few people have in the past come across the wrong way. God knows I have upset people on here and that was the furthest thing from my intent. Yet I am here and constructively helping people with their VAT/imports and trying to be more tactful :)

Its easy to do in a format where you cant soften your words entirely with facial expressions and modulate voice tone. Smilies help but not always - when I post a :) on visordown, people associate that with sarcasm at times.

Given that, intent and whether its deliberate does actually become quite important, not a case of it perception takes precedence. Because your perception once formed is going to influence how you react in the future. I bet in future you will react negatively to all his posts which isnt really fair if theyre not deliberate trolling posts. How would you feel every time you posted I jumped down your throat because of a negative perception I could form of you from this thread? You wouldnt like it, and it wouldnt be fair.

So people, can we quit with the witch hunt? Put the pitchforks down please because it doesnt reflect well on you either. None of us are perfect and this isnt a perfect medium for communication. And perceptions previously formed influence here and make you see things less objectively. Is it really trolling? or simply lack of empathy/sympathy? or simply a blunt and harsh posting style? Think a little before lighting that stake eh? ;) :p :)

And be careful about what you wish for. For making it so easy to be banned for how youre perceived. Because one day you may just type something in without thinking, without empathy because youre in a bad mood and upset someone and thats pretty much what youre suggesting is what it needs.

Full marks to the mods for doing a hard job and Sid for a good call.

Damn I need a lie down for that :p

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Originally Posted by hovi5 (Post 1147593)

:smt082

You havin' a larf at my name. Round where I comes from that be a fightin' talk! Just remember...:smt063

Fancy a trip to Chester? :D

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Originally Posted by lynw (Post 1147598)

Hmmmm I have a major problem with this. God help me, given my history with Martin I cant believe Im going to do this.

Btw bear with me, this machine is timing me out so replies need to be added by edit atm :smt093

If you want trolling, go to visordown. Im sure you'll last 2 seconds with the professional trolls on there. Trolling there is an art form where you have someone who in every biker down thread starts on people for replying. Thats deliberate and he knows full well the response he will get because he does the same thing every single time.

Martin, is not in the same league and while you perceive it as trolling trust me, he aint that bad.

Do not confuse trolling with someone who is blunt, tactless, undiplomatic, harsh and to the point with their posts. Thats simply a posting style that you react negatively to. Imo all Martin has done is display a lack of empathy and sensitivity but has the right to express his opinion like everyone else.

God help us all if we are to be banned for our failings as human beings. If your suggestion to make it that easy is all it takes, this forum would be very empty as a fair few people have in the past come across the wrong way. God knows I have upset people on here and that was the furthest thing from my intent.

Its easy to do in a format where you cant soften your words entirely with facial expressions and modulate voice tone. Smilies help but not always - when I post a :) on visordown, people associate that with sarcasm at times.

Be careful making it so easty to be banned for how youre perceived. Because one day you may just type something in without thinking, without empathy because youre in a bad mood and upset someone.

Regardless of trolling or not, and I think your right by the way, any one person that can upset that amount of people and to do it in many different threads is not condusive to a nice warm and friendly forum that we all enjoy. The reason that so many people stay here after the SV is long gone is because of this friendliness and respect for other peoples thoughts.

So for that reason alone I will be more than happy to delete threads left right and center if I think they are causing bad carma in the forum. This is regardless of who the poster is and how long they have been on the forum. I have done so in the past and shall do so in the future.

Can we please now drop the topic and get back to how it should be?

Lyn, this is not all directed at you. ;)

I've just picked up on what you have said and carried on. Bad editing I guess but then I'm a thicko. :)

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Originally Posted by Baph (Post 1147601)

You havin' a larf at my name. Round where I comes from that be a fightin' talk! Just remember...:smt063

Fancy a trip to Chester? :D

chester?

Even better, you have no clue what I'm talking about.

Friday night out in chester, me paying? :D

:smt063

P.S. UrbanDictionary.com ... look up Daffid... STRICTLY NOT SAFE FOR WORK FOLKS!!

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Originally Posted by Baph (Post 1147631)

Even better, you have no clue what I'm talking about.

Friday night out in chester, me paying? :D

:smt063

P.S. UrbanDictionary.com ... look up Daffid... STRICTLY NOT SAFE FOR WORK FOLKS!!

Is this an open invite then?:cool:

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Originally Posted by Jdubya (Post 1147633)

Is this an open invite then?:cool:

Only for the taff's on the forum... but that's kind of giving the game away :|