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Re: Pedestrians, especially children...

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Originally Posted by jambo (Post 1287181)

14,000 rpm for the ZX6R (While dramatically coming to a stop 12 inches from them) however, has made a kid's limbs all try to run away in different directions at the same time. He could hear that through the iPod and I know his name was Peter, because his mum was screaming at him :D

Now that made me laugh out loud... :D

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Originally Posted by yorkie_chris (Post 1287274)

It's like those adverts with the dead kid: "hit me at 35mph ... hit me at 30mph"

Why not just get out of the f#cking road?!? Spackers.

But this one almost made me wee myself :smt043

Jo

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Originally Posted by Daimo (Post 1287036)

Nope, it was a farce. Firstly i was told i'd loose as its a pedestrian. I fought it, told the case was closed, heard nothing for 2 years.

Then i get a letter out the blue saying they had paid out £4500 in total (he got about £1500) in court, i hadn't been told about any of it. I went mental at the company, they had acted without informing me of anything, and to my knowledge, the case was done and dusted years ago.

Basically, becuase he had injuries and had a doctors sign reports stating his injuries, someone HAD to be responsible. Even though the police didn't hold me at fault and i was in the right, he got a load of money.

I was livid. Somehow they haven't put it on my insurance, so rather than fight the insurance company for what they had done, i got them to send me out my certificate of NCB, they hadn't changed it (meant me loosing 4 years NCB) or noted the loss, so i got a copy of it after the letter i received about it going to court.

Now i can argue (if it ever comes up) that i have full NCB and not a couple of years.

The fact they done everything behined my back made me livid though. And the pedestrian still won and got paid out.

Makes me angry thinking about it :smt013

You shouldve counter sued.

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1. Eyes don't see you

2. Eyes see you but brain doesn't register. The brain expects to see a larger object like a car, van or wagon, when it's not there they cross. Ever seen a pedestrian do a double take at you when half way across then start running? It's the brain registering the fact that there was actually something there the first time they looked and they suddenly get brown trousers.

3. Brain makes a split second risk assesment, risk vs impatience. The subconcious tells you that a bike is smaller so less likely to hit you and will hurt less if it does. Concious thought about the fact you just walked out in front of a 30mph 300kg, bike would make the same person feel stupid afterwards. If they double take and get brown trousers half way across they were just a bit quicker with the concious thought and realise they made a stupid decision.

Kids are kids, all of the above with even less attention paid to the traffic and a less developed ability to take a sensible decision.

Same applies to car drivers pulling out of a junction.

Hapens all the time on the bike, but much less often in the car. If someone walks out on you in the car, they usually didn't look or were ****ed.

This lazy brain action doesn't happen to bikers crossing the road anywhere near as often.

It's why I think a year on a moped should be prerequisite to getting a car license.

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Originally Posted by -Ralph- (Post 1287839)

It's why I think a year on a moped should be prerequisite to getting a car license.

maybe not a year but definitely some decent miles in all sorts conditions etc

Re: Pedestrians, especially children...

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Originally Posted by scooby2102 (Post 1287841)

maybe not a year but definitely some decent miles in all sorts conditions etc

i use the timeframe of a year quite loosely, simply because you can have a moped at 16 and a car at 17 so if it was law to ride a moped first, that how it would happen in most cases. Parents get free from taxihood year earlier and the kids learn some road sense the hard way by getting knocked off a few times. Didn't do me any harm, well not long term harm anyway ;)

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combination of both maybe, the 16 to 17 is fine but also some decent miles with it (although dont know how you would prove the miles though as some wee cheeky chappies might register and do nowt for a year)

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That and its extra cost, why should you have to pay for a scooter for a year that you don't want?
Can't really see many 16 year olds turning down the use of transport though.

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of course pedestrians have the right of way if they have earphones in.

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I was once riding along Albany Road in Cardiff about a year ago on my way home in the pouring rain. I never filter down this road as most drivers have their brains removed the moment they turn onto it!

So there I am in a line of traffic, doing about 10mph with a good gap to the car in front. On the other side of the road the traffic is stationary. All of a sudden this woman steps out from behind a van in the queue. She wasn't even looking at me - I had about 5 foot to stop in. Slammed the brakes on - don't think I've ever stopped so quickly. Of course then as I stop I haven't got my foot down and almost drop the bike. As you can imagine, I'm not happy and started shouting at her.

She turns and looks at me, then shouts "Road rage, help I'm being attacked - officer officer". Now I'm confused - looked over my shoulder to see a cop stood on the pavement. He wanders over to use and asks me to move the bike to the side of the road.

He asks her describe exactly what happened - apparently I was diving in and out of cars and then she had to dive out of the way before I started to abuse her." Bull****" says the cop, " I saw everything - you stepped out in front of this guy" he then proceded to give her a 5 minute road safety lecture.

Having sent her on his way he turned to me. Commented on riding in the extreme weather - I replied about commuting to work. At which point he replies "yeah I know what you mean - I use my GPZ500 everyday for getting to work" - bonus, another biker. Had a 5 minute chat with him at the side of the road. He had a Gixxer for his summer toy - he was telling me his opinions on tinted visors - and how they should be allowed!!! Gotta say he was a thouroughly nice chap.

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Originally Posted by yorkie_chris (Post 1288438)

Can't really see many 16 year olds turning down the use of transport though.

It was great for me, freedom! I was never home.