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ethariel 31-07-12 10:17 PM

Re: Hein gericke
 
Bloody hell, not only are the local dealers in trouble but also one of the few chain's left :(

I just spent a couple of 100 beer tokens there in the past month, never had any issues there, if anything they may have been TOO helpfull sometimes (Errrr i wouldn't buy thet mate, the cheaper one is better.... several times and right too as i ignored them twice lol)

ogden 02-08-12 08:36 PM

Re: Hein gericke
 
Well the clearance sale has started. Stockwell branch was insanely busy this evening, barely any space left to park outside and a brisk trade being done inside. 10% off lids, 20% off pretty much everything else - not really any different to the deals they've been offering for the last six months but not bad if there's something specific you're after.

DJ123 02-08-12 08:38 PM

Re: Hein gericke
 
My bet is that HG in Germany will buy out the UK shops and run them

Dicky Ticker 02-08-12 08:59 PM

Re: Hein gericke
 
According to a very reliable source not wrong---------but only the five best retail outlets that belonged to the UK H.G.will be taken over by Germany.
Other shops that are not reaching the sales forecasts will be closed.

andrewsmith 02-08-12 09:08 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dicky Ticker (Post 2752580)
According to a very reliable source not wrong---------but only the five best retail outlets that belonged to the UK H.G.will be taken over by Germany.
Other shops that are not reaching the sales forecasts will be closed.

Sounds like good news.

Hopefully they'll be run closer to the German style, not trying to be a parts dealer aswel

DJ123 02-08-12 09:09 PM

Re: Hein gericke
 
Perhaps they may allow a franchise of shops to re open

Davies 02-08-12 09:35 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by andrewsmith (Post 2752588)
Sounds like good news.

Hopefully they'll be run closer to the German style, not trying to be a parts dealer aswel

How the **** is this good news, please explain.

andrewsmith 02-08-12 09:39 PM

Re: Hein gericke
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Davies (Post 2752613)
How the **** is this good news, please explain.

Some people will keep their jobs (if what DT is saying is the case)

ogden 02-08-12 10:05 PM

Re: Hein gericke
 
Numerous media reports say "A spokesperson for the administrator also said no store closures were planned." That doesn't tally with all but five being closed, but then I suppose if they are going to stick signs in the window saying "CLOSING DOWN SALE - EVERYTHING MUST GO" then a bit of confusion can only be expected.

GowerSV 02-08-12 10:29 PM

Re: Hein gericke
 
Only ever went into HG (Cardiff) once. I thought the prices were on the high side for average looking gear. The guy behind the counter was eating a very smelly lunch and ignored me when I went to the counter for a car park exit code. Have not been back since and maybe I never will get the chance now. I seem to remember reading about slow orders a while back - the writing on the wall? The idea of a closing down sale sounds interesting though - perhaps I will go one more time! :D

Lozzo 02-08-12 10:31 PM

Re: Hein gericke
 
A little history lesson for you:

Hein Gericke was originally a German run business that owned all its stores in mainland Europe with HG UK being a privately owned business run by two partners, Guy and Richard. HG UK was the only part of HG Europe that was profitable for many years

HG Germany went bust but as HG UK are privately owned in UK they weren't taken down with them. HG UK bought the rights to the HG name in Europe and made dramatic cuts to keep the HG name alive across Europe and expanded their UK operation slightly. To do this new European directors were invited to sit on the board each with a financial stake in the new company.

HG UK's original partners parted company, with Guy leaving and setting up another company importing and distributing another quality clothing brand and Richard staying at the helm of HG UK.

HG has a few scares but holds its head above water until yesterday.

As far as I'm aware HG Germany has not existed for a while, so there can not be a bail out of HG UK as they are in effect now HG Germany since they bought the rights to the HG name in Europe after HG Germany went bust a few years ago.

There.

History lesson over - quit with the speculating and leave it up to the businessmen who know what they are doing... or put your CV in to the administrators and tell them you could do a better job than the guys who've run it for the last 20 odd years and built it up to what it once was.

DJ123 02-08-12 10:35 PM

Re: Hein gericke
 
what ever they do, i hope they keep HG going in the UK. I'm a big fan of their gear and shops. Would be a big loss IMO

Lozzo 02-08-12 10:36 PM

Re: Hein gericke
 
Just remember one thing guys - it's rumours like the ones populated on forums like this that can kill a successful business by instilling a lack of confidence in products and their suppliers.

When you hear a rumour about something like HG going bust, the worst thing you can do to that business is post bollox about it on a forum, because you can bet your life that the majority of the half-wits who frequent forums will spread that rumour in various forms right across the internet, and that's exactly what happened to HG.

GowerSV 02-08-12 10:59 PM

Re: Hein gericke
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lozzo (Post 2752658)
..... half-wits who frequent forums

The reason HG are in difficulty is because not enough of us half-wits have chosen to spend our hard earned cash there in recent times, I would imagine.

Lozzo 02-08-12 11:11 PM

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Because the half-wits spread the rumours, and the quarter-wits don't go shopping there because of it.

GowerSV 03-08-12 08:38 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Lozzo (Post 2752667)
Because the half-wits spread the rumours, and the quarter-wits don't go shopping there because of it.

Wow - I'm surprised HG have sold anything with such a large proportion of their potential customer base experiencing learning difficulties. Perhaps their target market ought to have been the hyper-intelligent bikers who probably don't mind being ripped off to fuel corporate greed. The fact is, HG became uncompetitive in the face of a shrinking market. When the mighty fall, the massses will scoff. But that's just human nature - envy I think it's called. HG stuff was ok but so is lot of other gear. I personally blame the Internet for shifting consumer trends. Let's face it, most of us need retail outlets less and less. The overheads of expensive premises will continue to make many businesses unviable. I recently bought a new 2 piece, high quality leather suit on-line for £160. A mate of mine has a HG suit virtually identical except for the HG logos on his. He paid 2x the price. I would not tell him he's a half wit - he's bigger than me!!

GowerSV 03-08-12 08:39 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Lozzo (Post 2752667)
Because the half-wits spread the rumours, and the quarter-wits don't go shopping there because of it.

Wow - I'm surprised HG have sold anything with such a large proportion of their potential customer base experiencing learning difficulties. Perhaps their target market ought to have been the hyper-intelligent bikers who probably don't mind being ripped off to fuel corporate greed. The fact is, HG became uncompetitive in the face of a shrinking market. When the mighty fall, the massses will scoff. But that's just human nature - envy I think it's called. HG stuff was ok but so is lot of other gear. I personally blame the Internet for shifting consumer trends. Let's face it, most of us need retail outlets less and less. The overheads of expensive premises will continue to make many businesses unviable. I recently bought a new 2 piece, high quality leather suit on-line for £160. A mate of mine has a HG suit virtually identical except for the HG logos on his. He paid 2x the price. I would not tell him he's a half wit - he's bigger than me!!

andrewsmith 03-08-12 08:59 AM

Re: Hein gericke
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lozzo (Post 2752667)
Because the half-wits spread the rumours, and the quarter-wits don't go shopping there because of it.

I have to sort of agree with Gower, Loz
The markets shrank and some areas there is massive competition. On Westgate Road/ Newcastle, there is 3 motorcycle clothing shops (plus Hein Gericke) and two motorcycle dealers all within a 1/2 mile

jamesymurray 03-08-12 09:40 AM

It's a real shame. Not least because it's yet another story of job losses and woe. Always found the staff at all three of the HG shops I use to be great, plus, as mentioned, their own brand kit is bang for your buck.

Sods law that I got a load of HG vouchers for my birthday last week isn't it...

NTECUK 03-08-12 09:49 AM

Re: Hein gericke
 
Can we still order stuff through the European site ?
I must say the guys in the Braintree shop have always been helpful .
Got to dash home tonight and see if I can get the matching tail pack

jamesymurray 03-08-12 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stenno (Post 2751476)
Any know if I can still use my £20 gift voucher?

I've just been in to the Peterborough store. The girl there told me that the plastic credit card style voucher are OK to use still but paper ones cannot.

Annoyingly, I've left my vouchers in London, so looks like an early morning jaunt to Hanger Lane on the morrow to see what is left...

Stuuk1 03-08-12 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lozzo (Post 2752667)
Because the half-wits spread the rumours, and the quarter-wits don't go shopping there because of it.

Absolute tosh.

I don't go to HG because it's much easier and cheaper for me to buy online.

Rumors are rumors, I haven't actually heard any rumours... rumours about what exactly anyway? About their own brand gear? Ok so what, they stock all sorts of other brands anyway so how would a rumor play any kind of part in their demise?!

As for rumors, HG have always been super friendly when I have even been in. I bought a pair of Daytona boots and a Knox jacket and they are just great!

shonadoll 03-08-12 12:47 PM

Re: Hein gericke
 
I started this thread as there had been problems with people getting their stuff from the website during the sale, so I must apologise for my part in hein gerickes demise. Insert eye roll here.

Stuuk1 03-08-12 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shonadoll (Post 2752805)
I started this thread as there had been problems with people getting their stuff from the website during the sale, so I must apologise for my part in hein gerickes demise. Insert eye roll here.

It's all you fault

Littlepeahead 03-08-12 03:01 PM

Re: Hein gericke
 
I always found the Braintree store stocked very little women's gear and the staff were largely indifferent to their customers. It was rare to find any helmets in theor in XS size.

However I bought my HG textiles second hand and they have been excellent.

I was planning on going up there tomorrow to look for some waterproofs anyway, so will see what they say.

NTECUK 03-08-12 03:36 PM

Re: Hein gericke
 
Maybe it's cos I look shifty they think I might nick stuff and keep sn eye on me ;)

shonadoll 03-08-12 04:12 PM

Re: Hein gericke
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stuuk1 (Post 2752821)
It's all you fault

I know. I'm sitting on the naughty step.... I'm gutted cos my suit will be out of guarantee now!

ogden 03-08-12 06:17 PM

Re: Hein gericke
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shonadoll (Post 2752887)
I know. I'm sitting on the naughty step.... I'm gutted cos my suit will be out of guarantee now!

If it's a Goretex suit, you may well find WL Gore will look after it, certainly as far as the membrane's concerned. LSR are the approved repairers for both HG and Gore in the UK.

ogden 03-08-12 06:20 PM

Re: Hein gericke
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jamesymurray (Post 2752730)
Sods law that I got a load of HG vouchers for my birthday last week isn't it...

Those vouchers are worth 20% more than they were on your birthday. Get spending before it's too late.

shonadoll 03-08-12 06:56 PM

Re: Hein gericke
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ogden (Post 2752935)
If it's a Goretex suit, you may well find WL Gore will look after it, certainly as far as the membrane's concerned. LSR are the approved repairers for both HG and Gore in the UK.


Excellent, Thankyou. It is gore tex.

Girth 03-08-12 07:34 PM

Re: Hein gericke
 
I wonder what oxford products will do with their 45% of feck all stake in hein gericke......

missyburd 03-08-12 09:02 PM

Re: Hein gericke
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ogden (Post 2752935)
If it's a Goretex suit, you may well find WL Gore will look after it, certainly as far as the membrane's concerned. LSR are the approved repairers for both HG and Gore in the UK.

Would that apply to separate textiles too? As in Goretex trousers?

ogden 04-08-12 12:14 PM

Re: Hein gericke
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by missyburd (Post 2752996)
Would that apply to separate textiles too? As in Goretex trousers?

Should do. Check with Gore.

Even if you're out of warranty, or can't find a way to make a claim, LSR should be able to do a repair.

http://www.lancashiresportsrepairs.c...ng_repairs.htm

Stuuk1 04-08-12 04:28 PM

Got a nice new Prosports jacket today, £200 and very happy :) Thank you HG

Stenno 04-08-12 04:52 PM

Re: Hein gericke
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jamesymurray (Post 2752785)
I've just been in to the Peterborough store. The girl there told me that the plastic credit card style voucher are OK to use still but paper ones cannot.

Annoyingly, I've left my vouchers in London, so looks like an early morning jaunt to Hanger Lane on the morrow to see what is left...

Yeah spent it yesterday thankfully :)

Ch00 04-08-12 10:10 PM

Re: Hein gericke
 
Is it still 20% off?

Stuuk1 04-08-12 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ch00 (Post 2753374)
Is it still 20% off?

Yes, not sure that 20% covered the whole range but definitely certain things

orose 05-08-12 07:06 AM

Re: Hein gericke
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ogden (Post 2752935)
If it's a Goretex suit, you may well find WL Gore will look after it, certainly as far as the membrane's concerned. LSR are the approved repairers for both HG and Gore in the UK.

Not sure about the LSR part, but I asked the question yesterday and the opinion of the staff in my local store was that Gore would uphold their satisfaction guarantee, while HG Germany would honour warranties on other products.

Littlepeahead 05-08-12 08:48 AM

Re: Hein gericke
 
I visited the Braintree branch and as usual they had very little women's gear or x's sizes. Not one pair of size 4 boots. Waterproof all large or bigger. That store in particular has never catered for women and without a single member of female staff it's no surprise.

Dave-the-rave 05-08-12 10:19 AM

Re: Hein gericke
 
http://www.hein-gericke.co.uk/


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