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It's the most basic right not to lock an innocent man up. Besides, there are exeptional circumstances rules for situations which require this kind of action. The only reason this has been passed is so it can be acted upon easily, and frequently.
How likely is it that someone involved in terror will require much evidence gathering?! It's not a small crime easily hidden. Would it have helped in ANY of the terrorist attacks? Has the current 28 days proven to help at all? NO Have there been massive abuse of these laws already? Hell yeah. It's sickening and just another building block of the police state. |
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We were in more day to day danger for terrorism during the "troubles", and yet somehow we got by without 42 days...
Can't get on youtube from work, but go and search for roy zimmerman, "that is the war on terror" "There's that great quote about war, and I'm trying to remember who said it. That the people can always be brought to do the bidding of the leaders. You just tell them they're under attack, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism, now who said that? - Oh yeah, it was Herman Goering And that is the War on Terror" |
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Those that cry out that you live in an ever increasing Police State culture really do for me get carried away with the whole thing. For me ID cards(I have had to carry one with me for the last 8 years-though it does not contain some of the personal info some are trying to push to be included in the UK one) are no big deal Should I ever get stopped by the police or asked in a shop or bank to prove my ID I can do so.
Over zealous powers of arrest and detention for suspected terorists? I have no problem with that at all as I feel I would never be dragged in myself. One can only hope that the investigation leading to any arrest has been carried out professionally and diligently before the arrest warrant can be issued. Hence,although 42 days are allowed for them to button down the case for court appearances or official charges to be made that should prove to be,(hopefully) way more than ever required. Arresting one person and holding them for 42 days is a small price to pay in my mind when we consider the havoc just one terrorist can cause. The arguments that say we only have a terrorist incident every Preston Guild, and so we do not need this.....are in my mind wrong. just maybe the authorities are ever more vigilant and their methods are working and making it more difficult for these people. We can rant and rave from a distance. But God Forbid any of our lives or loved one's are devastated by the acts of terrorism. Put in that situation I very much doubt the money mentioned to hold a suspect would be begrudged. Lose a family member to a bomb or bullet and I am sure you would readilly if able,pay that 5k a day to have that person back safe with you. But then again,what do I know? |
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Either way, this is why it's unwise to listen to victims, or families of victims, because they're often the least objective and thus incapable of making any balanced judgment on what's best for the general population. |
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OMG never thought I'd agree with a Conservative MP
Is there any hope for me now? |
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And if the 42 days should prove to be more than needed, why do they ask for it? |
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And the fact that there is still an ongoing protest right in front of Parliament since before the legislation was introduced (therefore allowed) makes a mockery of it. |
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