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Originally Posted by neio79
(Post 1616219)
probably getting nowhere as any squadie who is doing it, will be ringing from our VPN . And trust me i know, its a rght balls ache for them to investigate calls comming form it for that reason! ;)
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You don't need to know exactly where the calls are coming from, and besides, it's pretty common knolwedge that people in the armed forces don't receive the same punishment as civvies for certain offences. I highly doubt the military would bother punishing anyone for making crank phone calls.
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Originally Posted by foxyinleather
(Post 1616498)
The calls can be easily traced, every call i/c and o/g is itemised within the VPN when the call connects, which would include any call to the hotel. maybe not to the direct extn no but to the main number. It is also traceable at the hotel too as soon as the call connects...:o
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True, although it's only "instantly" tracable if you have the right authorisation on the BT network, and then only as far as the military PSTN gateway in use.
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Originally Posted by neio79
(Post 1616519)
You are right there will be certain tags to identify the route it took. But certain secret systems will make it hard to trace past the point where it enters or leaves our VPN from the PSTN.
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Again, you don't need to know the point of origin for the call (in this case), mainly, as the military wouldn't really bother punishing anyone for it. Lets face it, there's probably a fair few people that would need reprimanding, so there's little point in bothering.
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Originally Posted by Ed
(Post 1616610)
I hope that the Army would tell them to p!ss off
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They wouldn't really be able to. They'd have to at least pretend to do something.
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Originally Posted by foxyinleather
(Post 1616625)
Yes if it was to do with something illegal/serious though the military would investigate themselves first and in certain cases would carry out their investigations in conjuction with the Police
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I agree.
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Originally Posted by neio79
(Post 1616635)
True enough, SIB need to submit their request through the team that work alongside me. This goes to BT as authority to start logging calls. Even then its hard to pin point the exact extension the call came from.
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Again, you don't need to know the origin of the call to solve the problem. All you do is prevent the PSTN gateways from calling the hotel for a while. Simple to do on many many gateways that I've used in the past, just route the number to a non-existant one (supplied by BT for this very purpose).
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Originally Posted by neio79
(Post 1616635)
But i think the MOD has bigger worries that Squaddies making prank calls to hotels.
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I agree, which is why I doubt anything other than blocking outbound to the specific number will be done.
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Originally Posted by TSM
(Post 1616356)
not totaly legal, just its not been tried out properly in court. ...So, its they are on weak ground using that clause. Its only a matter of time.
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I agree, however, the whole part about innocent until proven guilty comes up. Have the hotel admitted that they said he wasn't allowed a room because he was military personnel? Not that I've read about. They've admitted to making a mistake, but that's about it. They haven't publically given a reason, so until it's taken further, they can happily hide behind the right to refuse anyone.
If it is indeed true that the soldier didn't care about being refused, but his parents kicked up a fuss whilst he's away, he's due for some serious ribbing within the forces.
I agree with others though, it's really not a news story.