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Re: The government has done something right

I admit I didn't think of that, the bit they were argueing about was the being able to search people without grounds. But that completely misses out the fact that you could just make up some grounds for a stop and search anyway.

Re: The government has done something right

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Originally Posted by Spiderman (Post 2147767)

I'm with all those who think this is a stupid move. Terrorist laws are already overused and simply cos one group disagrees with a countries foreign policy does not make them terrorists.

Its not about "human rights" my friend. Dont let the red tops fool you. You, me and every other citizen of this country by law has the right to free speech and freedom of expression. If we dont like something the Govt is doing in our name its our basic legal right to voice our views about it.

That seems to be all this lot wan to do too. Like i've said many times before i'm not a fan of this group in any way but as the article also says by making the proscribed all they will do is make them more secretive and underground and attract the wrong types to stand up for them.

I agree with that. Similar sort of stuff is happening here.

There is already enough legislation in place for police to be able to deal with disturbances and criminal activity. The danger with this sort of legislation is that it may be too liberally applied in the future. Banning groups that are opposed to the government of the day is a slippery slope and is just one step closer to the total control regimes of the old Soviet Union, Chinese, North Korea, or tin pot regimes such as the one run by Sadam Hussein.
While I may be opposed to some of the more extremist views of some of these groups, I would encourage people people to stand up for their freedom to be heard because it could be us next.

Re: The government has done something right

Not well done Labour - the wrong decision and at the wrong time. Another hasty and hopefully populist measure further demonstrating the desperation of our present 'government'.

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Originally Posted by Sosha (Post 2147455)

Going to disagree.

Though I may not a agree with your views. Within the confines of the law I believe in your right to demonstrate them.

By "Confines of law" I suppose I could sum up as:

"Mr x Is a Tosser, He's responsible for Blah Blah Blah" Fine

"Rise up Campers, Mr X is a Tosser and we should string him up from a tree" Not fine.

But we already have laws that cover this without resorting to the coverall of Terror Legislation.

The right to protest needs all the protection it can get and banning whatever group without providing any evidence is counter-productive.

Oh look, some sense.

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I'm with Sosha on this one, I didn't agree with anything this group said or did but unless it can be shown that they were involved in or organizing terrorist activity (and if that could be done there would have been a few arrest in the headlines) then they shouldn't have been banned.

Re: The government has done something right

On a related note, freedom of speech means just that - however offensive the message.

So this is a mistake too: Clickety-click

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Originally Posted by Sid Squid (Post 2148206)

On a related note, freedom of speech means just that - however offensive the message.

So this is a mistake too: Clickety-click

Good article.

On a similar note i;m watching a documentary on More4 at the moment about anti-semitics and how some are using that catch all phrase to cover every crime against jewish people, from mugging to having their cars stolen.

Its all about semantics sometimes it seems...but if you stiffle the free speech you are no better than those screaming stupid things.