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I look at it from the other side of the coin, and I count the bodies of those people that have been killed in the name of religion/faith, and the Catholic Church is as guilty as the rest of them.

The lord giveth, and the lord taketh away.

You and anyone else can stick religion where the sun doesn't shine.

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Yeh I know. All I'm saying is that if its your opinion religion is man made then you can't argue with that. But if you're stating that as a fact, then it is a presumption (ie the presumpion god's fake, religion is man made, etc, etc).

I guess its the equivalent of someone saying religion stems from God. It's their opinion/belief, but just because they say so, doesn't make it fact.

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God made the Earth in six days---Fact.I was taught it at school.
On the seventh day He rested and went for a rideout on his bike.
"The roar of his Triumph could be heard throughout the land"Fact.It says so in the Bible.

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which one? The only eastern religion being mentioned in this thread is Christianity (well til Biker Biggles last post,:rolleyes:).

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na they're not facts til proven!;)
Same goes for the flip side to that argument.
No one really knows, people have their beliefs, any swooping comments by people claiming to be 'enlightend' or 'clever people who don't follow fairy tales' should be taken with a pinch of salt cos everyone stabbing at guesses.

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Exactly.Hence the complete nonsense I said above.And all religeon suffers from the same inability to prove its claims so is essentially fairy stories.

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Now you see I think you're not quite following me. Belief in god is fine, if you want to believe in a creator or a dietey that's not a problem. Man crated religion as religion is not about belief it is about scaring people into doing what they want people to do.
Man created religion out of belief, but only to further their own aims.

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Coolgirl alluded very firmly to a certain other 'faith', which she referred to as 'eastern'.

Despite those slightly confusing clues, I think I estimated correctly what she was getting at.

And no, they* don't take kindly to even the slightest bit of good natured ribbing at the expense of said 'faith'.



*'They' clearly being a rather militant minority of course.

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The mission we are in occasional contact with actually hand out free condoms and encourage their use.
That is in Kenya, problem is african men refuse to use them.

How many mission stations are run by religious orders compared to non-religious ones I wonder. (not sarcastic there)

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Well coolgirls first quote was

then I quoted her simply changing the western for eastern because Christianity is an eastern religion, that's all. I don't think there was anything more to this exchange to be honest.

Yeh I see what you're trying to say, but no one really knows if some religions are man made or if they are the result of God speaking to certain prophets. For example,I don't know for a fact Jesus/Moses/Muhammad etc didn't hear things from a supernatural being and jot them down. You seem to know that man created religion out of belief and not God created religion which was followed by belief - how can you be so sure is all I'm getting at.