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shiftin_gear98 18-06-14 07:48 AM

Re: Complete electrical failure - Pointy.
 
Hopefully image attached.

shiftin_gear98 19-06-14 06:08 AM

Re: Complete electrical failure - Pointy.
 
No one?
Someone has to know if that will need to be bridged? Please.

shiftin_gear98 19-06-14 03:27 PM

Re: Complete electrical failure - Pointy.
 
Just in case anyone is looking back after alarm removal advise, I just found this...will try it tomorrow.


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Re: oh cr*p what have i done
Another thought. Removing the Datatool alarm may have interrupted power to the ECM. That would explain why "CHEC" doesn't go away even if the Dealer Mode jumper is properly installed.

Was the Datatool plugged into an aux connector (all black wires) on the bike? If so, a jumper is required to reconnect Orange/White (ignition power) to Orange/Green (ECM power) at that connector.

Since the starter motor cranks, the kill switch, clutch switch, and kickstand interlocks must be OK.
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That's the wiring diagram confirmed.

shiftin_gear98 20-06-14 07:16 PM

Re: Complete electrical failure - Pointy.
 
Well didn't get alot done today. But the alarm is off!! And the bike started.....
It's so liberating to be able to touch the bike without the sodding alarm beeping at you. ;)
Bike ran for quite awhile, through various revving. No blown fuse :scratch:
Will try out the multimeter on Monday, and the cable wiggling.

ophic 20-06-14 08:22 PM

Re: Complete electrical failure - Pointy.
 
You can narrow it down quite a bit, looking at the wiring diagram. There's only a few wires that are protected by the main fuse only.

Main feed post main fuse goes to the ignition, rectifier and fusebox.

After ignition it goes again to the fusebox, but also to the left handlebar switchgear. This is where I'd start looking as with the movement of the handlebars, it could quite easily chafe.

As it runs and revs, try turning the handlebars from lock to lock. Also try it with the headlights on main beam as this isolates a different part of the circuit.

650 20-06-14 09:02 PM

Re: Complete electrical failure - Pointy.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shiftin_gear98 (Post 2963328)
Well didn't get alot done today. But the alarm is off!! And the bike started.....
It's so liberating to be able to touch the bike without the sodding alarm beeping at you. ;)
Bike ran for quite awhile, through various revving. No blown fuse :scratch:
Will try out the multimeter on Monday, and the cable wiggling.

Where do you park up (not asking for exact location, obviously) as I had my R1 pinched not too far from your postcode, lotta thefts going on at the moment so if your alarms gone..you might wanna invest in an alarmed disc lock and big, badass chain and lock.

shiftin_gear98 21-06-14 11:53 AM

Re: Complete electrical failure - Pointy.
 
Orpic, thanks for the advise. Will give it ago.
650, the bikes lucky, my car can't fit in my garage due to access. So it's pretty safe there, even gets chained up when I'm away for any period. At work it's in a private carpark right outside my ground floor office window. Only use it to commute as the rest of my life belongs to my 3 kids. 6, 4, and 10 weeks. Won't miss the alarm at all.

shiftin_gear98 23-06-14 10:19 AM

Re: Complete electrical failure - Pointy.
 
Ok,


So got to work early again. Turned bike on, no blown fuse.
Left to run whilst wiggling everything, nothing blew.


Side note, if you undo the radiator and have it resting on the exhaust (it's cable tied up too so no weight on cables etc.) you run the risk of melting the plastic clip holding the rubber guard to the bottom!! Another lesson learnt, managed to notice it before it melted.. smoked quite nicely though..


I have now checked pretty much every plug I can get to, unclipped checked contacts wires etc., no chaffing burnt bits.
I have also focused on wiring for the RR the starter motor the left had cluster. Nothing... Handlebar turned and wires wiggled multiply times.


I got the multimeter on the battery too.


Off 12.73
Key on, not started 12.10
Running 13.40 - 13.50
Revving the nuts off 14.44


Has been sat for a week or so. Battery regularly charged at home on a trickle charger.


Thinking it might have been the alarm.....?
Experts please comment...non experts welcome too.

ophic 23-06-14 10:30 AM

Re: Complete electrical failure - Pointy.
 
The alarm has it's own 10A fuse, so you'd think that would blow first (I still have a spare in my pocket, even though I got rid of the alarm ages ago). However iirc the alarm patches into the ignition feed, so the wiring fault/short could have been here and you've now removed it.

Battery voltages look ok to me.

Alarms are great on new bikes but they don't seem designed to last.

shiftin_gear98 26-06-14 01:48 PM

Re: Complete electrical failure - Pointy.
 
Well after more wire wiggling than I care for I haven't managed to blow a single fuse, find any chafing or burnt bits. The bike is finally back together, tidied up a few things while it was apart.


Gave it a quick blat around the car park at lunch. So with trepidation I'll give it a go home tonight, hope it's a nice ride, and not a long push!!


There's some big bugger hills on the way home. Still I'll have 100 30amps in my pocket! :thumbsup:


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