Fair enough moan about the pull to some degree but I dont agree its right to have a full on whinge if you knowingly get pulled with an illegal plate/can/visor. You KNOW theyre illegal. You KNOW bikers are targeted. No its not fair but its the way it is. :(

But whats missing here is the obvious failure of the attitude test. Because every copper thats pulled me over has let me off. And I know plenty of people in that category too. No offence to the thread starter intended, or any insinuation that his attitude was bad etc etc, but ime attitude can make a big difference.

PS. If you get 2 pulls on your plate, you can find it being withdrawn by DVLA now. And Im presuming also invalidates your insurance.

How do you know, where you there?

I think we should assume the plod failed the attitude test rather than an SV riding compadre with 20 years experience.

Because there was absolutely no evidence, perhaps? :roll:

For many of us this is possibly a good thing 8-[

Woa hang on one sec.... The policeman produces a ruler to inspect the size of the letters and only then declares the plate illegal?

I would have had to point out this fact (after he fined me), surely that is not in the spirit of things? He was stopped regarding bike safety then 'examined'.

That can not be bad rider attitude that is just bad attitude from the police.

Lyn - shoot me down if you like but getting off a fine with a caution could be attitude, the policemans frame of mind at the time or even a cheeky smile from a female bike rider :P All policemen are men after all :lol: More policewomen please :lol: (actually scrap that last bit women can be very vindictive when they want).

Chris

That may be true, but we will never know because they never followed it up. Probably because it would have cost too much, as they would have needed to get forensic evidence from the paint left on his seriously pranged car! Amazing he could drive off from my wife's description. It just amazed me the Police were n't more interested, as the next person might not be so lucky, especially if it's a bike.

Ah...you never said there was impact. I thought it was juts a nasty piece of driving observed.

Can someone explain to me why dark visors are illegal ?
But on the other hand you're allowed sunglasses & also the Schuberth S1 with the sun shield pull down is legal... ?

My Dark Visor has "Daytime use only" on it. (BMW Sportintegral)

The very fact you can play the 'Deferred Test' game makes a mockery of the law.
So, you can be sure I'll be using it when i eventually get tugged. :lol:

I have a loud can and smaller-than-the-average small plate. (An order mistake on my part, but i'll be damned if I'm gonna get another slightly bigger but still illegal one to replace it.)

If my can is illegal and they spot it when I'm stopped (and they'll have already heard it anyway :twisted: ), I can shout for a deferred test before they manage to determine it's legality. So I take the bike home, stick in the baffle and swap plates. Then present, essentially, a different bike to them. That's daft.

Do you have to give a good reason for not waiting while they check it over. You know the idea..."Bloody hell officer! Can't you see my pillion is about to have a baby!!!"

Oh yes, a big one just as well it was a Volvo (no jibes please).


PS

Sorry mastiffmat did n't mean to hijack your thread, it just struck a chord and after my wife's 3 very uninspiring encounters with the Police, just thought I would agree with your sentiment.