Re: 1/4 mile times?
 

i got a serious need for speed to much is not enough it just is enough to temporarily satisfy me

Re: 1/4 mile times?
 

[quote=kcowgergmm;1202839]
Well not many bikes that can do that. In the real world a ZX10R will spank - lets say a Ferrair 360, but given a long enough road (not likely unless 3am on the M1 ) and the 360 will catch you and pass you.


If you was riding your ZX10R @ 80-100mph on the motorway and had a 360 modena creep up behind you, then from that speed accelerated you would pull a huge distance from the car that by the time he started to creep over 180mph (ZX10R top speed), the race would be finished. If you just happen to be doing 150mph on your ZX10R and a 360 appears in your wing mirrors, and you then accelerated - the distance initially, that you would pull would not save you from the 360s huge 195mph top end. A bikes acceleration the faster it goes tends to suffer greater then a very fast car.

Cars to watch and are likely to meet, are 911 Turbos, TVR Cebera's 4.5L V8s, TVR Speed 6's. These cars have very strong acceleration from 120mph.





And before people mention that bikes Aeoro's are crap, no they are not! Just consider that 160bhp is always going to have a hardeer time pushing through a 150mph gale then let say 450bhp.




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This is a good article where lots of VERY POWERFUL tuned to the max cars are pitted against eachother. They also chucked in an MV10000S ofr a comparisson.

Note how week the MV's acceleration is from 140mph against those cars. To be fair those cars are Tuned. Makes you think tho:) Also they put in a standard viper and corvette as well:)

Article
http://www.roadandtrack.com/article....rticle_id=2572


Statistics
http://www.roadandtrack.com/assets/d...peedometer.pdf

And some more stats
http://www.roadandtrack.com/assets/d...read_carts.pdf


There are also videos as well.

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That's a nice article. It really demonstrates how a low weight becomes relatively irrelevant once you get to the big numbers where a slippery shape, and more importantly power, become crucial.

Re: 1/4 mile times?
 

[quote=PAPPACLART;1204046]moral of the story get a zx10 remove the limiter re gear if needed add some horse and wheelie pas the Ferrari at 195 on one wheel. ok maybe i have been watching to much ghost rider but you get the drift

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We had a Std ZX12 with an Akra system in the other day, it made 180hp something, but it also had a cheap dry Nos kit and with the fueling right it made just over 225:shaking: !!!
He used it for trackdays and the odd sprint:help:

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http://www.strangevehicles.com/image...ent/110985.jpg

:thumleft: What a great photo, laughed my a#@ off. Bet he could wheelie a vespa 50. Or a Smart Car, if in the back seat.

The "license tag" he has on the back there is a sign from a US company called Overhead Doors, they make electric garage door openers and garage doors. Probably will always get by with it, though, could you imagine a police officer dedicated enough to shove him in the back seat of a car to take him to jail?

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true no police is that motivated plus the pig would be worried he would steal his donut

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[quote=PAPPACLART;1204046][quote=kcowgergmm;1202839]


Well not many bikes that can do that. In the real world a ZX10R will spank - lets say a Ferrair 360, but given a long enough road (not likely unless 3am on the M1 ) and the 360 will catch you and pass you.


If you was riding your ZX10R @ 80-100mph on the motorway and had a 360 modena creep up behind you, then from that speed accelerated you would pull a huge distance from the car that by the time he started to creep over 180mph (ZX10R top speed), the race would be finished. If you just happen to be doing 150mph on your ZX10R and a 360 appears in your wing mirrors, and you then accelerated - the distance initially, that you would pull would not save you from the 360s huge 195mph top end. A bikes acceleration the faster it goes tends to suffer greater then a very fast car.

Cars to watch and are likely to meet, are 911 Turbos, TVR Cebera's 4.5L V8s, TVR Speed 6's. These cars have very strong acceleration from 120mph.






All well and good, but in all honesty, when and where are you gonna need to out accelerate anything above 110mph? I agree that the Ferrari would have thrashed the SV above 90mph, but this is already 20 mph beyond the speed limit. Quite frankly, if you all feel that your fun is to be had at 90mph+, then you may as well get a fast rep mobile and blat up the motorway. :smt107

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This is true, and it's because bikes are so much less aerodynamic than a car. (Yes they are!) It has little to do with pure power - consider the power/weight and the power/displacement.

911 Turbo - 480bhp, 1585kg = 0.302 bhp/kg; 3596cc = 133bhp/litre
GSXR1000 - 165bhp, 180kg = 0.917 bhp/kg; 999cc = 165bhp/litre

Bikes aeros are much worse than cars because of us. We might tuck in as much as possible, but them hips, elbows, head, *bottom all add drag. Consider that the bike is also smaller, and therefore hitting less front on "150mph gale" and you can see the wind resistance isn't the problem, but the drag created at the back. Bikes and riders create strong turbulence behind the bike; sports cars are designed to minimise this, and the size of you - other than adding weight - has very little impact.