Re: Rage
 

Was never about the money though!!

Re: Rage
 

This could become a regular thing.

Some cynically manufactured 'artist' pops out of a TV phone-vote program and they are instantly faced with a rabid facebook group giving them some real competition for their first (and possibly only) single release.

Re: Rage
 

I agree, it wasn't about stopping people or simon Cowell making money, it was about keeping the $hit X-Factor regurgitated crap from the number one spot.

Re: Rage
 

Don't think this was ever about the money or Sony.

Its about the assumption made by the music and media industries in this country that the X factor single is a guaranteed number 1. Well its not, and it won't be again.

Re: Rage
 

I think the reason it won is because of the fact most people who have an interest in music avoid what's in the charts, as soon as this got rolling they will have pr1cked their ears up and thought "29p to **** off simon cowell this christmas? Bargain"

I heard about the rumours it was a sony marketing dealy but after hearing the guy who started the group on radio 1 I gave it the benefit of the doubt. I didn't really care for the sake of pence either.

Re: Christmas Number 1
 

I sort of have spotted an irony here

The more famous song lyric from this week's number one (and best ever xmas number one of all time) states

"**** you, i wont do what ya tell me"

however, many people were told "buy killing in the name of! buy it!"

and they did what they were told

:lol:

not that I mind, I'll have the radio on xmas day to sing along with the whole family

All together now

:smt041

Re: Christmas Number 1
 

Or, that was the message we were sending out to Cowell et al. We are not all mindless sheep with mothing to watch on Saturday evenings, just waiting for your karaoke acts. Nor are we willing to allow Cowell to take it for granted that we would allow the self-same karaoke act to take the Christmas number one slot.

It was fun! I'm looking forward to the Chart Show on Christmas Day now!

Re: Christmas Number 1
 

Na, I do know why the song was chosen, we were all being spoonfed music we were being told was good, when really it was all pretty much the same.

I think in the last 10 years, about 5 xmas number ones have been acts from one of Mr Cowell's "talent" shows.

Re: Christmas Number 1
 

What shall I spend my 29p on now? Still got it stacked up in 1p coins ready to be spent.

I didn't buy into the charts wars - not exactly rebellious doing what some band tells you to do...

Re: Christmas Number 1
 

i saw somewhere (cos i cant get away from this mind-numbing topic anywhere) that one of hem was giving profits to charity. Well Daz, give it all to charity! If it costs 29p to but just how much goes to charity anyway i wonder?

Re: Christmas Number 1
 

RATM were sending their profits to charity. I guess, being an old song thats done the rounds for ages and probably covered all its production costs a few times over, that there wasnt much expenses to cover :)

Re: Christmas Number 1
 

It wasn't RATM asking you to buy it

And all the profits are being donated to Shelter, the charity for the homeless - they've raised ~£70,000 so far...

Re: Christmas Number 1
 

oic, i'd love to know how much the charity gets at the end of the day after all the other "costs" the record company will take :roll:

Re: Christmas Number 1
 

well heres a though to mill over
does this now mean that a facebook campain could make anyone number 1
eg if we got the worst song in the world of with some tone deaf guy singing it (im thinking fizz :) ) could we make him number 1

Re: Christmas Number 1
 

Where did you see this? I thought it was people opted to donate to Shelter seperately but as part of the FB group?

Re: Christmas Number 1
 

its on the voice interveiw on bbc

Re: Christmas Number 1
 

Quick search reveals that its people who are in fact giving and not the band. http://england.shelter.org.uk/news/d...er_of_facebook!

i stand to be corrected about the band tho, as i say i know f all about this.

Shelter is a very worthy cause tho and something ive been giving to for years myself, so nice one the general public. Just a shame they will all forget about it in a few weeks time tho and it takes the hatred of a tv programme to make people care about the plight of the homeless for a minute.

Re: Christmas Number 1
 

"some of our proceeds, the windfall of proceeds from this will be going to Shelter"

Quote from the interview. So guess it's good they will be giving something to the Charity.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiiQPqmYE1A

Re: Christmas Number 1
 

like i say, i'd like to see just how much compared to how much the producers etc took home.

Re: Christmas Number 1
 

Considering the artists will be taking home a few percent of the profit to begin with I'd wager not a lot, but at least it's something...

Re: Christmas Number 1
 

Did the x factor guy give money to charity or is this just about RATM?

I think it's great. Since TOTP died.. no wait, since the beeb brutally killed it, nobody really gives 2 ****s about the charts so i think anything to make that better is brilliant.

Power to the people :p

Re: Christmas Number 1
 

more than the other would have i'd of thought.

Re: Christmas Number 1
 

in that case they should STFU about their giving imho. You dont see me posting on here when i ive money to charity do you? Whenever "celebs" prattle on about giving it makes my skin crawl.

Re: Christmas Number 1
 

True that :p

Re: Christmas Number 1
 

http://wackyiraqi.com/wtf/get_off_your_high_horse.jpg


I think the only reason it was mentioned was that if it hadn't people would assume they were "raking it in"

It wasn't a "oh look we're giving to charity, look how good we are" it was "well this unexpected income is a bonus, but we'll be passing it forward"

Re: Christmas Number 1
 

not on a high horse mate and i chose not to believe the hype.

Did David Gilmour make any noise a few years back when he sold his huge house in london and gave all the money from the sale to homeless charities?

You give to feel good and do good, not to get good publicity. If that was their genuine reason they could have said nothing at all. The fb page encouraged people to give and people gave, none of them made anything from giving did they?

Re: Christmas Number 1
 

I'm talking about the band, nothing to do with the FB group

If they hadn't said they were giving the proceeds away people would speculate that they were cashing in on some unexpected and un-earned popularity...

Re: Christmas Number 1
 

they could do what gilmour did, say fek all and give it away. Let people find this fact out for themseles and respect them more for it, thats all i;m saying.

Re: Christmas Number 1
 

spidey you seem to be missing the point

Re: Christmas Number 1
 

which is?

Re: Christmas Number 1
 

what wolfie said

Re: Christmas Number 1
 

i understood everything he said said dude, jusy cos i dont agree with it dont mean i missed the point he made. I could, by that measure, say he missed my point, non?

Re: Christmas Number 1
 

Right here...

**shanks Spiderman with a shard of McElderry's CD single**


:smt105;)

Re: Christmas Number 1
 

:lol:

Its good we know we love each other underneath and we just enjoy a debate aint it.

Re: Christmas Number 1
 

I'm rather glad that RATM have got it and not another cover version that makes Simon Cowell cash.

I also respect the fact that the band are giving their proceeds to charity.

I'm sure the marketing folks will use this one in the future though..

Re: Christmas Number 1
 

No I actually hate you

Re: Christmas Number 1
 

Well, its clearly true. There really is no accounting for taste is there.

Re: Christmas Number 1
 

;)

Re: Christmas Number 1
 

I am soooo please RATM got number 1. Reading this thread is the first I've seen about charity but if a charity is taking a cut then I'm double pleased.

Joe Mcthingy's song is also complete pants (IMO) and I can't see how it even got to number 2.

BRING BACK CHRISTMAS NUMBER 1s!

Re: Christmas Number 1
 

Aye. There's too much marketing these days- there's plenty of amazing music out there that really deserves the attention, but instead it's the real shoite that gets marketed to the numbskull many.

People's values are so diminished these days because all their offered is mediocrity- even those awful twins went down well because these days, people seem to celebrate the same mediocrity. What about all those people who spent years of time and passion developing musical skills? And songwriting skills. And just decent bl00dy music!