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Peter Henry 08-06-06 10:17 PM

aah Fizz....How can one so young be so wise? :-k

The Basket 08-06-06 10:23 PM

Does al-Zarqawi ride a SV?

Does anyone ride an SV on this site? :D Apart from me of course :wink:

Went for a 120 mile and really enjoyed it. The SV is really at its best when speeded.

The frame on the K5 get red hot!!!Forgot about that.

Didn't see a single terrorist incident or Iraqi insurgent...just idiots pulling wheelies...but Shropshire is boring so I'm not surprised. :?

Ed 08-06-06 10:24 PM

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but Shropshire is boring so I'm not surprised. :?


GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:

philipMac 08-06-06 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by The Basket
Didn't see a single terrorist incident or Iraqi insurgent...just idiots pulling wheelies...but Shropshire is boring so I'm not surprised. :?

You didnt see that Korean chick from upstairs who used to be hot and now wears grown up sensible brown shoes and nice skirts either.


I did, and its shaken me up badly.

The Basket 08-06-06 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Ed
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Originally Posted by The Basket
but Shropshire is boring so I'm not surprised. :?


GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:

Apart from Tern Hill....looked like the bike meet from the apocalypse :D

Jelster 08-06-06 10:47 PM

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Although much better mannered than the 2 people that have been permanently banned, the format is much the same, and IMPO, adds no value to the community at all.

Again, 6 pages of conversation... So there's something being added. Exact same went for our departed friend of course.

Yes, but it's a discussion that promotes ill feeling between members, and if you notice, once again our learned friend "lights touch paper and stands well back" like the troll he is.....

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philipMac 08-06-06 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Jelster
once again our learned friend "lights touch paper and stands well back" like the troll he is.....

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:? Who is this learned troll you talk of my good man?

sharriso74 08-06-06 11:08 PM

Forums are like people everyone has an @rsehole

northwind 08-06-06 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Jelster
Yes, but it's a discussion that promotes ill feeling between members, and if you notice, once again our learned friend "lights touch paper and stands well back" like the troll he is......

Maybe a little. But most people are adult enough to have a conversation on the internet without taking away any baggage. TBH I don't think there's any point in coddling people who will take mortal offence or hold grudges, they're going to do it anyway. The question is, should we limit the 95% or whatever who actually take part in these conversations without losing their sense of perspective to placate the 5% who really, seriously, need to grow up?

And if this topic's deemed unsuitable, what next? Practically any conversation can be contentious. How about that one about the guy on the roof being fed by police, with people talkign nonsense about the human rights act? That could kick off. Absolutely anything about stunting on the road, or speed cameras, they've got nasty in the past. You can't pad the site with cotton wool, there's always going to be some sharp edge that someone can cut their tender opinions on if they want to.

There's an al-Zarqawi topic on every site or list I frequent just now, this one's probably the most civil and reasoned I've seen- it's credit to the site that we can
approach a difficult subject and not all spit the dummy.

gudster 09-06-06 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Balky001
what is trolling anyway - seems like an insult but I keep thinking of the little hairy naked guys you get in Clinton's (the figures, not the customers!)

As jelster said " users who continually post for the sake of getting a reaction. "

I dont think northy, Supervox, or Gudster are trolls though. (I only mention these people snce they are sort of active in the thread.) I dont nessesarily agree or dissagree with any of them. Well actually, I do. Gudster is mainly talking sh*te.
Sometimes Socommk is.
There is a fine line. If you are posting up stuff, to wind up people, and get attention, you are trolling.
If you actually are a nutcase, and you accidentally wind everyone up, it looks like trolling, but you are not actually trying to get people annoyed. You are just a nutcase. Or an unpleasant person etc.

sometimes people do need to be wound up (just a little), not least because their complacent assumptions annoy me.
not everyone buys into the same emotive antiUS/antiwar/antiwhatever crap,, and to avoid the thread becoming a liberal-lefty echo-chamber,, its good that they should know that.
the response and resultant vitriol can be quite revealing.
agree or disagree... i dont really care.... but just be aware there is another side that is prepared to oppose those aforementioned assumptions.

philipMac 09-06-06 03:17 AM

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Originally Posted by gudster
sometimes people do need to be wound up (just a little), not least because their complacent assumptions annoy me.
not everyone buys into the same emotive antiUS/antiwar/antiwhatever crap,, and to avoid the thread becoming a liberal-lefty echo-chamber,, its good that they should know that.
the response and resultant vitriol can be quite revealing.
agree or disagree... i dont really care.... but just be aware there is another side that is prepared to oppose those aforementioned assumptions.

So you are right Gudster.

There is no point spending hours preaching to the converted. You have your opinions, you voice them, Northy has his, he voices them, and you both call each other monkeys :wink: and that is completely fine IMO. It is not trolling. You want to take on people, you want to challange people. We all do sometimes. This is the way of things.

We are grown ups, and these things are not really that personal. We say these things because we believe them. The complete oposite to trolling.

And whatever you think about some of these liberal lefties' opinion about politics, you could do worse than listen to their opinions about bikes.

My opinions on politics are so left they are virtually coming back the other side. And what I know about bikes is almost not worth writing down. So, I can safely be ignored on all fronts. :P

akbarhussain 09-06-06 07:28 AM

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theres no reason for me to communicate further on this matter.
lol.

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methinks you may be one self-righteous mutha. (but i could be wrong)
You are wrong.

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will havta watch the same 'Power of Nightmares' propaganda that you seem to be feeding off... then maybe i can join your gang?
Question for you Gudster...... are you actually able to dispute any of the references or information that has been supplied in support of the loony-left argument? Or just insinuate it is not worth listening to because it is as you say, loony left? Seems to be a common tactic amongst some people.

Like you say, obviously Noam Chomsky is a complete liberal US hating loony scumbag. Obviously. But are you able to actually dispute anything he has written? Cos i'm not sure the Bush administration has been able to do that..... don't they just ignore him. Oh, and spread nasty rumours that he is a 'liberal US hating loony scumbag'.

akbarhussain 09-06-06 07:29 AM

Actually, nother couple of question for you Gudster.

In your (humble) opinion:

Why was Iraq invaded and still being occupied?

Why was Afghanistan invaded, and still being occupied?

THnaks for your time.

akbarhussain 09-06-06 07:30 AM

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Yes, but it's a discussion that promotes ill feeling between members, and if you notice, once again our learned friend "lights touch paper and stands well back" like the troll he is......
Who is standing well back Jelster?

Jelster 09-06-06 07:47 AM

And as if by magic "poof" (cloud of smoke) he arrives on the scene...

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akbarhussain 09-06-06 08:02 AM

You did hurt my feelings a little Jelster by calling me a troll. But then you more than made up for it by calling me magic, so I suppose all is forgiven.

akbarhussain 09-06-06 08:18 AM

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The US government chose muslim fundamentalism as a counter for soviet expansion, and gave the muj the tools they needed to fight a superpower... It's simply not a matter of debate.
Exactly..... so we can work with this group of people whilst it suits us. And when it suits us not to, BANG...... we have a new enemy.

Hmmmm, now where have we seen that model used recently?

The Basket 09-06-06 08:28 AM

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Hmmmm, now where have we seen that model used recently?

Is this the new K6? Yes we have seen it before because it's the same as the K5...just different colours.

Biker Biggles 09-06-06 09:34 AM

Yes but it's only a model---Ssssssshhhhh. :wink:














Camelot.

gudster 09-06-06 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by akbarhussain
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theres no reason for me to communicate further on this matter.
lol.

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methinks you may be one self-righteous mutha. (but i could be wrong)
You are wrong.

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will havta watch the same 'Power of Nightmares' propaganda that you seem to be feeding off... then maybe i can join your gang?
Question for you Gudster...... are you actually able to dispute any of the references or information that has been supplied in support of the loony-left argument? Or just insinuate it is not worth listening to because it is as you say, loony left? Seems to be a common tactic amongst some people.

Like you say, obviously Noam Chomsky is a complete liberal US hating loony scumbag. Obviously. But are you able to actually dispute anything he has written? Cos i'm not sure the Bush administration has been able to do that..... don't they just ignore him. Oh, and spread nasty rumours that he is a 'liberal US hating loony scumbag'.


i rejoined the fray mainly to answer Northwind & Supervox, not to communicate further with you my friend (although you can think yourself lucky that i threw you a few scraps :lol:).
my lack of desire to get entrenched in a "debate" with someone coming from the hard left perspective still stands.
i'd sooner stick pins in my eyes.
go add your comments at Harry's Place if you want a long discussion on your chosen subjects, from both sides of the fence.
the world cup is about to start ....and thats where we end.
bye

akbarhussain 09-06-06 11:26 AM

lol. Just well, lol.

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i rejoined the fray mainly to answer Northwind & Supervox, not to communicate further with you my friend
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theres no reason for me to communicate further on this matter.
Not quite what you said, now is it?

Your response is exactly what I expected....... and it only took 3 simple questions posed to put you off the debate.

Roughly translated, "I cannot answer your questions". I do find you right wingers entertaining, particularly the irony of refering to the left as 'loonie'.

Ah well Gudster, seen as thats the end of the conversation..... I sincerely hope you enjoy the world cup. Please do not go and invade any countries if your chosen team does not win. And do refrain from beatin on the immigrants. Tata for now.

gudster 09-06-06 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by akbarhussain
lol. Just well, lol.

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i rejoined the fray mainly to answer Northwind & Supervox, not to communicate further with you my friend
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theres no reason for me to communicate further on this matter.
Not quite what you said, now is it?

Your response is exactly what I expected....... and it only took 3 simple questions posed to put you off the debate.

Roughly translated, "I cannot answer your questions". I do find you right wingers entertaining, particularly the irony of refering to the left as 'loonie'.

Ah well Gudster, seen as thats the end of the conversation..... I sincerely hope you enjoy the world cup. Please do not go and invade any countries if your chosen team does not win. And do refrain from beatin on the immigrants. Tata for now.


whatever.
and may god bless america.
:wink:

Flamin_Squirrel 09-06-06 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by gudster
whatever.
and may god bless america.
:wink:

:salut:

BIKERBLOKE 09-06-06 11:40 AM

Phew is it safe to come out now :lol: , Best half hours read in long time.

akbarhussain 09-06-06 11:41 AM

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the world cup is about to start ....and thats where we end.
bye
again, lol.



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whatever.
Can I expect 'Talk to the Hand' next time you come back then?

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and may god bless america.
I prefer may god judge america. :wink:

gudster 09-06-06 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by gudster
whatever.
and may god bless america.
:wink:

:salut:

LOLOL
yessir..thankyousir
:salut:

BIKERBLOKE 09-06-06 11:43 AM

oh its not over then :twisted:

Peter Henry 09-06-06 12:08 PM

I have to say that for entertainment value akbar and gudster provide a wicked double act! More,more,more! :wink:

Filipe M. 09-06-06 12:54 PM

So can anyone explain to me this left and right wing malarky? :?
I mean, Brits drive on the left side of the road, does that make you all left wingers? :?
On the other hand, I'm supposed to drive on the right side of the road (pun intended), does that make me a right winger? :?
And about PH? Born left, drives on the right side now, does it make him center? :?
Sheesh... :?

Supervox 09-06-06 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Filipe M.
So can anyone explain to me this left and right wing malarky? :?
I mean, Brits drive on the left side of the road, does that make you all left wingers? :?
On the other hand, I'm supposed to drive on the right side of the road (pun intended), does that make me a right winger? :?
And about PH? Born left, drives on the right side now, does it make him center? :?
Sheesh... :?

To be even more confused Filipe you need to go to the Carribbean - visit a 'British' island & you'll find that they drive American cars (left or rather WRONG hand drive) but they are supposed to drive on the left (or CORRECT) side of the road !! :shock:
I say 'supposed' because in reality they actually drive whichever side they actually feel like or seems like a good idea at the time !! :D

Balky001 09-06-06 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter Henry
I have to say that for entertainment value akbar and gudster provide a wicked double act! More,more,more! :wink:

Really? Two neutrals talking about a conciliatory topic - rather dull. Now whether Rooney should play or not, that's a hot debate!

Peter Henry 09-06-06 01:06 PM

I think the local delicacy in the caribean may play a large part in the phenomenum as explained by Supervox....





















http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/9...riesig13wn.jpg
:P

gudster 09-06-06 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter Henry
I have to say that for entertainment value akbar and gudster provide a wicked double act! More,more,more! :wink:

Really? Two neutrals talking about a conciliatory topic - rather dull. Now whether Rooney should play or not, that's a hot debate!

Rooney fit.
Zarqawi dead.

yesterday was a very good day :D

Tara 09-06-06 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by gudster
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Originally Posted by Balky001
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Originally Posted by Peter Henry
I have to say that for entertainment value akbar and gudster provide a wicked double act! More,more,more! :wink:

Really? Two neutrals talking about a conciliatory topic - rather dull. Now whether Rooney should play or not, that's a hot debate!

Rooney fit.
Zarqawi dead.

yesterday was a very good day :D

Couldn't agree more

Biker Biggles 09-06-06 01:48 PM

PH---Ive seen some four skins in my time but that Jamaica special must have cleaned out the Rizzla factory.Was it a fourty skin? :shock:

akbarhussain 09-06-06 02:58 PM

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Ive seen some four skins in my time
Phew, glad you spelt that right :wink:

philipMac 09-06-06 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Tara
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Originally Posted by gudster
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Originally Posted by Balky001
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Originally Posted by Peter Henry
I have to say that for entertainment value akbar and gudster provide a wicked double act! More,more,more! :wink:

Really? Two neutrals talking about a conciliatory topic - rather dull. Now whether Rooney should play or not, that's a hot debate!

Rooney fit.
Zarqawi dead.

yesterday was a very good day :D

Couldn't agree more

Yeah. I just... its a death. Someone died. Used to be a child, birthdays, chasing games, girls with pretty eyes, young adult hit by a bomb, corpse.

I just fail to see the reason to rejoice. More corpses. More martyrs. More vengeance. Brilliant.

Then I am looking about, at that pink liberal media bastian, "THe BBC", and I see this:

Russian torture dungeons... and, at a certain point, I dunno, you just start thinking wtf. I grew up with bombs going off up the road, used to it, but safe in the knowledge that its weird, and abnormal.

And, suddenly, now, I realised that I might be wrong. And, it makes me a bit sad.

akbarhussain 09-06-06 04:00 PM

This is something that I find very interesting....... but do people still genuinely believe that the BBC is left wing?

I found the Iraq propaganda, errr, I mean reporting to be quite sickening. How many times were they reprimanded for referring to Insurgents (that word still makes me laugh) as terrorists? lol

With the way the BBC Charter now works, I certainly feel that the BBC can no longer be considered an impartial source of information. Wghich is why the question, is the BBC left wing? I feel that they are dutifully tied to the beliefs of the government.

UlsterSV 09-06-06 04:08 PM

Of course the BBC is to the left. The whole mainstream media is to the left.

akbarhussain 09-06-06 04:18 PM

Daily Mail?


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