Re: Budget racing gone mad!!
 

I would count yourself lucky that you avoided that ex Mackenzie 600, seeing as he never raced one. Might have been his old winter commuter 

Re: Budget racing gone mad!!
 

I've had an idea!

How about we re-invent the Minitwin class??

No horsepower limit-but no engine work allowed-apart from swopping with other engine internals-cam swap etc...

Yes-you can remap ya pointy to whatever hp you can-but take with it the possible engine explosions...

Everything else as per minitwin regs.

Next the most important bit-increase the fun factor and take away the 'seriousness' factor.
There is no championship-no points-so winning matters less!
In fact race winner gets a crate of beer which must then be taken and shared with all other minitwinners-oh and then must start from back of grid next race!!

Any comments on how this could be implimented gratefully received!!

Lets not let the SV's die-we had too much fun!!

TC

Re: Budget racing gone mad!!
 

You should look to the past and run it like the old lc 350.
All the keys in a hat before the race.
Your not going to cheat and boost a bike your unlikely to ride.

Re: Budget racing gone mad!!
 

Hi Andrew I had a good think about all classes to suit a budger and believe it or not superstock 600 is the next option for me from minitwins. Pre injection is supersport rules, bikes are fairly old too so maybe past there sell by date. With the superstock class the bike I have is very well sorted and it was minitwin money, spares the lot. Only thing is tyres will wear quicker but then again theres a better range and also ex bsb scrubs that havent done alot if get stuck. The one thing that worrys me is it being a fast bike compared to what Im used too it may take a bit of time to get confident on it to properly enjoy it

Re: Budget racing gone mad!!
 

The front 3 are tested as Bemsee control all their classes very well. It doesnt mean they think anyone is cheating. People are also pulled at random from the whole grid, same with Thunderbikes, Superteens and Superstocks. It PREVENTS cheating as everyone can quite clearly see that cheating wont be tolerated.

Simple, if you have rules then someone should have the balls to ensure they are being adheered to. Same if someone thinks someone is cheating then they should have the balls to put the money where their mouth is.

Simples.

Seriously if its not working at your club then look at why its working with other clubs. Its worked with Bemsee now very well since 2003. Ive seen all manner of dummy spitting, accusations etc etc, nothing you wont see in any other class tbh.

Good rule policing and just get on with the racing and have fun. Budget doesnt always win these type of classes, skills do.

Re: Budget racing gone mad!!
 

Hi SV650Racer,

well as you can see from posts we've had issues at NEMCRC!

After putting myself in the position of messenger (and getting shot at)!
How can a first season novice come here and tell us how to run our class, is the sort of feeling i'm getting.
I asked/suggested that we needed to introduce policing and testing in our minitwin class.
To clarify from my own experience-not one single policing check or dyno test was done when I raced with the club in 2010-missed this season because of injury.
The club said they did not have facility to dyno test-but we finally managed after a lot of hoo har to get the use of one at Knockhill-but was told afterwards that it wouldn't happen again!
The dyno facility at Knockhill has now gone!
When the issue of policing was raised-I volunteered but didn't get much support at all!
To sum up-I feel that a lot of the front runners feel that us lads bringing up the rear are accusing them of cheating-I've never ever used that word! And yes I do have respect for them.
I feel that it would ease the running of the class to introduce testing and policing-but the feedback i've had has never been that positive!

Any suggestions would be gratefully received.

This may be a little retrospective-but it was decided at this years AGM to scrap minitwins in favour of supertwin type class-however several lads are peeved as they have already prepared minitwin spec bikes-at least one has e-mailed the club to protest-maybe we can pull the class back from the brink?

TC

Re: Budget racing gone mad!!
 

I totally understand your frustrations and understand where your comming from. Surely everyone racing in the class should appreciate that for a class to work and grow a structure of policing which is carried out in a fair manner is required.

Every class that runs under a form of rules requires this and it certainly doesnt mean anyone at the time is cheating, it just ensures fair play and prevention of cheating.

I cant honestly suggest a way forward as it seems the club needs to get a grip of itself aswell as some of the riders that are moaning about policing of the class.

Can you not form a commitee of people that want to continue running under Minitwins rules, designate an agreed elidgability officer who also acts as a riders rep (pref someone who understands the rules and is not involved in the class) and see if the club will allow you to run a sub class for minitwin spec bikes?.

If you want it to happen and so do others then you have a good chance of making it happen. If people dont want it policed then dont let them drag you down, ive seen all manner of bitching and moaning about who is cheating, best plan is to ignore the moaners and not let them drag you down.

Re: Budget racing gone mad!!
 

Andy,
firstly, I must say that after spending time with you in the paddock I think you're a canny lad and that i'm dead grateful for the help and support you've given me-hope it continues if i'm back on track next season!

Second, as a member on this forum you're entitled as much as anyone here to make a comment, or start a thread, or whatever.
But! I think I must make a comment.
There are a lot of lads on here who actually are/have been road racing. I'm sure you're aware-or if not i'll help make you aware-but we've actually sat on the start line, waiting for the lights to change, guts churning, clutch hand cramping, mouth like a budgies cage, senses buzzing, bank account emptying, and wondering if we'll make it round the first corner alive after that wave of thunder crashes over you!! Are you getting the picture?
You just have to read through the previous posts, to realise how passionate and opinionated we are about this sport-you agree dont you Gordon??
I know you're wishing you hadn't started the thread-but firing a bunch of lads like us up into a frenzy can be a tenuous game-I myself am very aware of that!
It might be a good idea for you to actually give road racing a go before commenting on, or raising the more heated topics in this area of the forum.

Regards

TC

Re: Budget racing gone mad!!
 

TC

I know what your getting at, and sadly road/ short circuit is something I couldn't do (competitively) as I can't disconnect the 'What if' part of the brain that all racers are able to.

I started the thread to carry on what had started in Callum's sale thread, as its a debate worth having TBH.

Andy

Re: Budget racing gone mad!!
 

Andy,
I agree-it's definately a debate worth having!
There are a lot of lads who are peeved at North East club as they've already prepped a minitwin spec bike and now the class has been dropped!
It's looking like the only solution for anyone who wants properly organised minitwin racing is to travel to Bemsee-which is a great pity!

TC