:lol: I like the "Straight through your letter box" and the Specialist fuels including Plutonium for DeLorian cars and the petrol with added NOx

The big airlines can have a 'deal' with thier fuel supplier...trying to work out a price of aviation fuel rather redundant. A 747 is very effecient in what it does I agree...not only passengers but cargo as well.

The price of fuel is added on to the ticket of public transport...the growth of India and China will mean more demand than supply keeping the price of a gallon high....didn't have that in the 1970's...Adding to inflation...adding to interest rates...adding to the debt burden...adding to economic slow down...unemployment...

MPG calculator for all you people to figure out how much its really costing you.
http://www.torquecars.co.uk/Tuning/u...calculator.php

Thats a good link Grinch :thumbsup:

How many litres is a k4 meant to hold :?:

I have never worked out my mpg, but I may as well seing as I dont have to actually do maths :lol:

Kerosene is still a drain on fuel reserves though and considering planes are increasingly used for unneccesary journeys, simply because filling them up is a cheap and easy way to make money for the airlines, this means that a large and growing quantity of the worlds fuel is being used for, basically, budget flights to Faliraki, and similar.

Are those figures for the plane an average or at peak efficiency? I know planes perform well at peak efficiency, but on cheaper, budget flights, there's a large porion where the plane is nowhere near this, so the efficiency is much reduced. Coupled with the larger mileages that a plane covers, it's a lot of fuel used, even if it is more efficient.

The "good for the economy" comes from people I know at the DoT. They know it's a big fuel drain, but they also accept that businesses would suffer a lot right now, with the huge globalisation thing going on, and less importantly, many people would be upset at the demise of the cheap flight/holiday. Fuel duty on planes isn't as far off as many people would like to think though... just wait and watch as oil prices rise and the reserves decrease. And get your cheap flights in while you still can :D

Thanks.. I think my GT does 44 mpg.. and the sv was doing 54.. though I'm trying a few tricks to get that down.. I shall see tonight on my next fuel stop.

Probably somewhere between 40-50 mpg. Less if you're ham-fisted, more if you're a pussycat.

The SV (Pointy) tank holds 17 litres, with the light coming on when about 5 litres are left. So typically 12 litres... 120 miles or so.

I guess that's peak cruising efficiency. I know that a plane at 25,000' will burn twice as much fuel (roughly) than when it's cruising at 35,000'.

A nasty Air Traffic Control unit could put a small airline out of business, by not controlling them to the higher altitudes! :shock:

Just heard something on the radio about adding £30 to ticket prices on long haul flights.

Interesting item:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4221296.stm

Particularly this quote from a "treasury spokesman"

"More than half the fuel used in the UK bears little or no fuel duty at all... so seeking to address the problem of high oil prices through road fuel duty alone would do nothing for the majority of consumers."

I'm pretty sure that 100% of the fuel I use whether for transport or heating is taxed and I guess the same applies to just about everyone I know. I don't know about you but reducing the duty on fuel would make a hell of a difference to me. Anyone know who this "majority" who would not benefit is?