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dotted 31-07-06 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by law
Back on topic, the SV is also aimed at beginners so the brakes won't be mega sharp or they'll overwhelm the rider. Plus beginners don't know what good brakes are!!

Im very happy with the SV brakes they are perfect for me , powerful enough , and i only need 2 fingers to brake hard !

Im a beginner :P

On cars i can tell the difference between good brakes and bad brakes , and sharp powerful brakes on the street , can be more dangerous than bad spongy brakes...
I believe than on bikes its the same thing , a good rider can control his urge to brake hard on a emergency stop , but the average rider will just squeeze the lever as hard has he can !


My point is that the SV brakes are good for the street ,in the same way that a SS600 bakes are good for the track !


(just the point of view of beginner :) , but from what i have read here , chances are that in a couple of years my opinion will change )

The Basket 01-08-06 08:58 AM

SV brakes are adequate for the job...they stop you so what more can you ask for?

The issue is that they can be so much more...and maybe in the 21st Century...should be more.

Steve H 01-08-06 09:01 AM

What is the obsession with firm suspension unless you spend most of your time on a track? Does anyone ride the roads in the South East? I certainly would not want to do so regularly on a SS600. (By the way, I used to own a ZX6R)
I own a Suzuki Ignis Sport, and whilst it is a great fun little car, the suspension is Waay too hard for the roads round here. A friend of mine has a standard Civic Type R and quite frankly, i want to get out after 30 minutes.
I appreciate that the SVs suspension is quite basic, but probably more relevant to British B roads than a CBRR, as much as that is clearly the better bike.

northwind 01-08-06 09:31 AM

There's a balance to be struck there, it's true. But the SV's sprung for a 9 stone rider :)

Steve H 01-08-06 10:04 AM

now come on, Ten at a push. :wink:

northwind 01-08-06 10:08 AM

Ten at the outside, I'll give you that. The trouble is, SV suspension's too crude to give effective seperation of damping- with something like the GSXR forks, you get seperation of high and low speed damping (not adjustable, mind) so you can have it firm for braking but less firm for potholes.

SVeeedy Gonzales 01-08-06 10:12 AM

Yeah, it's not a fair comparison - you get what you pay for and the RR is designed to do stuff that the SV isn't. The SV is fine normally as you get used to what you can ask of the brakes and suspension. But wow - the RR you can just squeeze the front brake with two fingers and you stop so fast, even a full four finger son the SV couldn't get near that. So composed as well - hardly any dive from the forks - I agree it's the suspension as well as the brakes. Very nice. Once it gets into 5 figures on the tacho as well, it really takes off.

The SV is definitely more convenient for daily use - higher position/better view, better mirrors, cheaper to run, quicker off the line and up to most legal speeds... but when has choice of bike/amount of fun ever been linked to the convenient/sensible choice...

Law 01-08-06 10:33 AM

What's wrong with the SV suspension? I don't find it that soft but I've never ridden another bike apart from a ER5 on my DAS.

northwind 01-08-06 10:38 AM

If you're happy with it, don't worry about it... It's only bad if it feels bad to you.

Law 01-08-06 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by northwind
If you're happy with it, don't worry about it... It's only bad if it feels bad to you.

I'm under 9 stone without riding gear on so I think it's alright :)


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