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jonboy 01-08-06 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Razor
It's not about being happy.

Of course it is. Contentment equals happiness. If you're not currently content, then you're not happy, which is why you're considering this course of action.

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There is no choice here
There's always choice, even if it's choices we don't wish to make.

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if I don't I'll probably end up killing myself.
I doubt it, you seem pretty well balanced overall. Plus you have a sense of humour, which always helps.

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That reminds me must start looking for a gel seat...
You'll need more than a gel seat :lol: .


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The Basket 02-08-06 09:11 AM

Send the baliffs round...

Stu 02-08-06 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Daimo
But dont pay tax, and they will put me in jail.

Not so. Only if you fraudulently declare a tax return will you be liable for imprisonment. Simply not paying will mean they'll come after you to attempt to recover their loss by seizing any assets you may have..

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But they put you in prison for non payment of Council tax so why not Income? tax :?

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Originally Posted by Viney
As for the bloke, thats fraud

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True. But consider this: had they prosecuted then the adverse publicity would have been huge. Not only would the NHS have been made to look like the evil empire, but so would that particular hospital too. For eight grand they've had damage limitation and the hospital itself actually looks quite good by accepting £25 per week. Rather than being a huge national story, this way they've kept it to the sidelines..

per month IIRC. Was a major news event going by last night's news.
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I'm sort of amazed they didn't wait for the cheque to clear to be honest

I'm sure they'll be looking at their methods a little more closely after this, so don't start planning anything :wink: .


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would not be able to provide a next day service but seeing him on the news a credit check would have been a worthile and obvious investment.

Peter Henry 02-08-06 09:52 AM

I would have whipped the old fraudster right back in to the hospital and removed said organ without anaesthetic or tools...a la those freaky far eastern mystic doc's that dig around with their hands?

He has deprived some other poor soul of treatment, someone with just as much right as he has...but they were willing to,(no doubt reluctantly) follow the procedure!

I think I am corect in saying that in the U.S. issuing a cheque with no funds to support it, is a federal offence.


I cannot believe the ineptitude of the admin peeps of the hospital in not waiting for funds to clear before appointing the patient.

(ooof Jeez that will rattle a cage or three!*)

wyrdness 02-08-06 11:08 AM

And today we have this story on the BBC. The NHS trust won't allow the hospital to treat patients who haven't been waiting at least four months even if the hospital has spare capacity. What the f*uck is happening to the NHS?

jonboy 02-08-06 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by stu369
But they put you in prison for non payment of Council tax so why not Income? tax :?

People are only sent to prison with regard to non-payment of Council Tax if they genuinely refuse to pay. If they can't pay then they are not imprisoned and it's treated as any other civil debt, though interestingly the local council is now treated as a priority creditor whilst the Revenue and Customs are not. And no, I don't know why.


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jonboy 02-08-06 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by wyrdness
What the f*uck is happening to the NHS?

Simply, the NHS is f*ck*d — and by the Labour Party, how's that for irony?


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K 02-08-06 11:33 AM

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What the f*uck is happening to the NHS?

Simply, the NHS is f*ck*d — and by the Labour Party, how's that for irony?


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It's not f*cked, it's just trying it's best to cover all the bases, reach all the targets and do the best it can to please everybody...

...including the people that aren't worth pleasing. :roll:

It's old and tired. In it's youth it was fit, lean and did it's job well - then times changed and it was left at the back of the queue for re-training. Now it struggles to do the best it can whilst other new, leaner services are promoted above it.

But like so many intelligent, middle aged people who are devoted to the company they work for (ie, us) give them a break, give them what they need to compete in today's environment and they will work hard and pay you back many times over.

It's not f*cked, just f*cked over. :roll:

jonboy 02-08-06 11:44 AM

Sorry, K, on this occasion I have to disagree with you. It's not a question of times changing, the NHS has been criminally managed and manipulated to a state of supreme incompetence and victim to nervous political diktat. A vast number of the employees are inefficient, incapable and poorly trained and supervised. It's on its knees and needs radical restructuring with first class management to save it from falling apart completely. As it's unlikely to get that, the future really doesn't look too healthy — for any of us.


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Biker Biggles 02-08-06 12:45 PM

You are both right to some extent.The NHS is a victim of poor management and gross political interference,but it always has been,and the problem is made hugely worse by changeing times.There is a culture change in our society which can be summed up as a dependance on the State to sort out all our problems,and the NHS is the most extreme manifestation of this.A generation ago we would'nt dream of troubling the NHS for trivial complaints but now it is swamped by them.It used to function well because our society exercised an element of self discipline which is now history and demand was kept at reasonable levels,and people were able to sort out most of their own health issues,at least initially.
Now the NHS is first port of call for for all the headaches and cut fingers that we are no longer able to deal with ourselves.
I don't know what the answer is,but some sort of discipline needs to be put back into the system or the NHS will sink under the weight of demand whoever is in Government.


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