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ArtyLady 29-01-09 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Magnum (Post 1764408)
If someone stole my bike and died on it, i would buy everyone on the .org drinks!

This is similar to a case near me where some lads stole a car and died in it. Absolutely no sympathy for them, glad it happened.

Im sorry but I think that's an awful thing to say :(

Ed 29-01-09 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ArtyLady (Post 1764742)
Im sorry but I think that's an awful thing to say :(

+1

ArtyLady 29-01-09 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Magnum (Post 1764524)
Well put there.


I'm not sure about other peoples opinions, but if YOUR bike was stolen, your bike that you have paid for, got a licence to ride, got insurance to be legal, and spent your life actually working for what you get, would you not be happy if the guy who stole it would get seriously hurt? They are scum. My mountain bike was stolen about 4 years ago, the bike that i paid for from a paper round wage. I would be more than happy to find out the scum that stole it seriously injured himself on it!

If my bike was stolen and somebody got seriously injured/died on it then I would be very sad for them - then go and claim on my insurance. The bike is a piece of metal for Christ sake! - that person was a human - ok maybe one who didn't know right from wrong, had **** upbringing etc or just have gone off the rails temporarily.

dizzyblonde 29-01-09 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Ed (Post 1764737)
I sit here in disbelief at some of the comments posted. I don't share the 'good riddance' mentality. I don't like bloodlust. I don't believe that people are intrinsically 'bad' or whatever label you like to apply.

This lad did not deserve to die. No helmet. Two up. Did he know how to ride in the first place. Might have been high - who knows. Perhaps he was a good lad, perhaps he had gone off the rails, it simply doesn't matter.

I find it very very sad.

RIP Gareth.

The problem I have is this.
We have a chavvy house in chav central that likes to be magnet to stolen pit bikes and crossers. Now I aren't getting into the arguement of they don't work, never been to school, how do they get them in the first place arguement. The problem is that they ride around here on the bikes no helmets, no gear on, cause havoc, drive me mad.....but, they know me well, they know what i have in the back, they know i'd break their legs personally if they went missing, but......when I fell off outside their house, it was them that came out to help me get the bike back up. I'm torn between saying about the lad in the article good riddance, but I know if it was one of them down the street, although I'd say it serves them right on one hand, I'd feel rotten on the other, as they do (once in a while) give a good turn for their bad antics. I've always said that one day, they'll come off and injure themselves seriously, on this street, but it would be me that would go out to help, and me that knows what to do to help them.

Its almost like having your conscience sat on your shoulder

yorkie_chris 29-01-09 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ArtyLady (Post 1764742)
Im sorry but I think that's an awful thing to say :(

If it was your bike stolen, you'd be like "I want to blow that little f##kers teeth out of the back of his head with a 12-bore". Anyone who says otherwise is either a liar, or has never had anything stolen before!

Scroat in this case has saved the owner the trouble and the inconvenience of arrest, imprisonment, loss of earnings etc.

timwilky 29-01-09 01:18 PM

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OK, I have have a younger brother who was no good as a 21 year old. He got involved in more than 1 police chases but never in nicked vehicles and ran more than one road block. I would have hated to think he had died during his stupid antics. BTW he is now a responsible business owner, employs 14 staff, pays taxes etc. It is amazing what 12 months locked up can do.

I did not understand the dead lads friends/family saying he was not the person who nicked the bike. So what, it was not his bike, he should not have been on it. He was apparently not wearing helmet etc. Therefore he knew he should have not been on the road. He took a risk, a gamble and lost. He was as guilty as whoever did nick the bike in the first place. I would have had sympathy if somebody had taken him out in order to stop him.

I am more concerned that this is one more wasted life destroyed because society is no longer prepared to stop offending behavoir at the first opportunity. I know the hippies say short sharp shock did not work. The lads I knew who did borstal did not want to go back. My younger brother went through the system and it was only when he was caught misbehaving on a suspended that he was eventually locked up. The arrogant sod at the time even drove to the court expecting to drive back home again.

It was only when we were contacted by the police about his car on the court car park for a week did we know he was a guest of her majesty. But it did the business. He came out not wanting to ever go back.


I have seen biker justice close up with a bike thief. It was not pretty and the lad would never again be able to grip a throttle properly. Nipped in the bud the unofficial way.

SoulKiss 29-01-09 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ArtyLady (Post 1764752)
If my bike was stolen and somebody got seriously injured/died on it then I would be very sad for them - then go and claim on my insurance. The bike is a piece of metal for Christ sake! - that person was a human - ok maybe one who didn't know right from wrong, had **** upbringing etc or just have gone off the rails temporarily.

Sure its only property, plastic, rubber and metal.

But frankly as a victim of Burglary just 3 weeks ago its VERY hard to have any sympathy.

They did wrong, they SHOULD have know better.

We cant keep giving them excuses, it is time that people had personal responsibility forced upon them.

Yes Death is a harsh penalty for theft, but had he just been injured like his mate - I can guarantee that no-one would think the penalty the legal system would have put on him would have fit the crime.

As mentioned elsewhere where is the sense in the following.

Have sex with an animal - 2 months
Have a picture of someone having sex with an animal - 2 years.

Fake the kidnap of your kid - 8 years
Take part in a 4 day gangrape of a 16yo girl with a mental age much lower, then when you are finished with her/bored pour caustic soda on her - 8 years.

The Law is an ass and people are just getting fed up of it.

yorkie_chris 29-01-09 01:23 PM

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Yup and it's because of that, that any trace of "take it on the chin" attitude is gone.

If I was copped for something, "I swear to tell the truth, the half truth, and nothing like the truth".

ArtyLady 29-01-09 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by yorkie_chris (Post 1764763)
If it was your bike stolen, you'd be like "I want to blow that little f##kers teeth out of the back of his head with a 12-bore". Anyone who says otherwise is either a liar, or has never had anything stolen before!

Scroat in this case has saved the owner the trouble and the inconvenience of arrest, imprisonment, loss of earnings etc.

Ive just said how I would feel and react :rolleyes: and Im not a liar thankyou! and I have had a vehicle stolen and actually and did not say things like that! Yes I was very angry and bitter towards them but would never wish any harm on anyone :( the only time I could ever say things like that is if a nearest and dearest was ever hurt by someone. We're not all agressive and hard faced you know;)

dizzyblonde 29-01-09 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ArtyLady (Post 1764772)
Ive just said how I would feel and react :rolleyes: and Im not a liar thankyou! and I have had a vehicle stolen and actually and did not say things like that! Yes I was very angry and bitter towards them but would never wish any harm on anyone :( the only time I could ever say things like that is if a nearest and dearest was ever hurt by someone. We're not all agressive and hard faced you know;)

I'm not aggressive and hard faced either but if someone stole my bike..particularly the yellow one, I'd turn into one evil mutha. Thing is my yellow SV was what dreams were made of. Took me many a year to scrimp up the the money just for tests, never mind the bike itself. She was a minger and now shes not, it was a gamble wether to scrap her or rebuild her...but thats my choice. My bikes are born out having nothing, not a penny to scrimp together for anything, a symbol of what I can achieve, and once lost I wouldn't be able to get back.
Yes I have this romantic vision in my head, but theres loads of others out there that don;t just think their pride and joy is just a hunk of metal. It would be like the cat dying if she got nicked.Its like those that get burgaled, the repercussions for those can be devastating, so why any different when its a bike.

Besides if mine ever was, I know theres a few nasty types that would go looking for whoever had it and get it me back again...not sure what they'd do to the person that had it but it wouldn't be pretty, and thatwould be done without a single word from me. ....sounds awful but sorry, thats the real world for you


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