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Bluefish 08-04-09 10:33 PM
Re: Not quite knee down....
 
anymore opinions and reasons why good or bad

carty 08-04-09 10:33 PM
Re: Not quite knee down....
 
Personally I wouldn't use that stuff- I don't want to risk doing 'progress making' speeds on a tyre sealed by gunk- good for bicycles, bad for motorbikes IMO.

Dave, are you out in the peaks next week then? I, like you, am always paranoid about what might be coming around a corner but after doing lots of miles on my bike including the nurburgring and a trackday I am much more aware of the capabilities of it which increases confidence no end. It's just a case of getting more miles under your belt and slowly discovering the 'performance envelope' as Petevtwin650 would call it!

Bluefish 08-04-09 10:38 PM
Re: Not quite knee down....
 
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Originally Posted by carty (Post 1858301)
Personally I wouldn't use that stuff- I don't want to risk doing 'progress making' speeds on a tyre sealed by gunk- good for bicycles, bad for motorbikes IMO.

Dave, are you out in the peaks next week then? I, like you, am always paranoid about what might be coming around a corner but after doing lots of miles on my bike including the nurburgring and a trackday I am much more aware of the capabilities of it which increases confidence no end. It's just a case of getting more miles under your belt and slowly discovering the 'performance envelope' as Petevtwin650 would call it!

good point

MCN_LiamM 09-04-09 08:27 AM
Re: Not quite knee down....
 
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Originally Posted by bluefishman (Post 1858207)
i'm sure i read a thread on here about scrubbing in tyres and how even though lots of people believe in it that you didn't have to do it nowadays due to tyre construction and materials all they needed was heat putting into the tyre mainly through acceleration and braking to burn off excess oils then they would be fine?, thoughts anybody.
The whole scrubbing in tyres thing is a bit fuzzy with what to do and what not to do.

I've been for a proper balls out blast with my mate on brand spanking new tyres before and they felt fine. Took them right to the edge on both sides and they felt fine.

alexs 09-04-09 08:56 AM
Re: Not quite knee down....
 
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Originally Posted by MCN_LiamM (Post 1858577)
The whole scrubbing in tyres thing is a bit fuzzy with what to do and what not to do.

I've been for a proper balls out blast with my mate on brand spanking new tyres before and they felt fine. Took them right to the edge on both sides and they felt fine.
Are you prepared to put that in print? :rolleyes:

MCN_LiamM 09-04-09 08:59 AM
Re: Not quite knee down....
 
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Originally Posted by alexs (Post 1858605)
Are you prepared to put that in print? :rolleyes:
Lol.

Tbh I think a lot of things like scrubbing tyres in are psychological. If you're confident enough to go for it on brand new tyres then do it, if you want to be a bit more careful then fair play.

Depends how you feel comfortable.

yorkie_chris 09-04-09 09:31 AM
Re: Not quite knee down.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by bluefishman (Post 1858207)
i'm sure i read a thread on here about scrubbing in tyres and how even though lots of people believe in it that you didn't have to do it nowadays due to tyre construction and materials all they needed was heat putting into the tyre mainly through acceleration and braking to burn off excess oils then they would be fine?, thoughts anybody.
Needs a little bit, it's the very first bit that's the slippy part.

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Originally Posted by Magnum (Post 1858220)
Serious question, would a burnout or two help? Or is that as silly as it sounds...
Yes, but not for the front obviously

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Originally Posted by Magnum (Post 1858262)
Oh yeah of course, im not going to con the buyer. Ill check how deep the tread really is, and work out how much a new set of tyres is. Could always knock it off the price i sell it for and tell the buyer.
On a CG? About 15p.

Scrubbing in the last tyre I put on, I was down on the A44 in wales :smt096 and just went steady-ish for 20 miles or so to get them a bit warm, then started to work back up to normal pace. This is on a pretty sticky bit of road though.



Dave, the stock naked pegs are crap for ground clearance. Don't bother sticking your knee out but get your rse half off the seat and get your upper body moved off to the side. There's plenty clearance for making reasonable progress but hooning it will put them down a lot.

A slightly taller rear shock, and especially one with some compression damping helps.

ThEGr33k 09-04-09 09:42 AM
Re: Not quite knee down.
 
Dave, You want to get out on my (yes it is mine :p) local bypass, the roundabouts are fantastic for good lean angles. Not dangerously so, you ride around it and you get big lean. Edge of tyre stuff without really aiming to get there... :)

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Originally Posted by Magnum (Post 1857888)
Ahh that not a bad thing! Theres little metal bits on the footpegs that mark how far you can lean. If you scrape them down too much then youve ran out of rubber.
Already been said.... Those blobs are basically there so you dont start scraping away the peg I think. :confused:

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Originally Posted by fizzwheel (Post 1857895)
I dont agree...

I've been right out the edge of my rear tyre and still not scraped my pegs on my GSXR. No chicken stripe at all on either side.

I've scraped the hero blobs on the pegs of my SV and still had a bit of chicken strip left on the rear tyre.
Same for mi ape. Basically clearance on the SV sucks bum :smt033

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Originally Posted by Dave20046 (Post 1857908)
Hmmm chicken strips might be the key here I'm not definitely not riding to the edge...but I thought my feet were in the right position too.
Your more likely to lose the chicken strips off the front as the back on the SV is VERY pinched so takes a lot of lean to get to the edge of that. Possably more than the front can take. :(

ThEGr33k 09-04-09 09:44 AM
Re: Not quite knee down....
 
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Originally Posted by MCN_LiamM (Post 1858609)
Lol.

Tbh I think a lot of things like scrubbing tyres in are psychological. If you're confident enough to go for it on brand new tyres then do it, if you want to be a bit more careful then fair play.

Depends how you feel comfortable.

Tsh good luck there mate. When you have "real power" they spin up very easily ;) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UEg1-6iEeo

ThEGr33k 09-04-09 09:51 AM
Re: Not quite knee down....
 
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Originally Posted by Dave20046 (Post 1858277)
ultraseal - I think good. Lots of others think bad apparently
I use it. My dad does, and its the only reason he made it home the other day. ;)

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Originally Posted by carty (Post 1858301)
Personally I wouldn't use that stuff- I don't want to risk doing 'progress making' speeds on a tyre sealed by gunk- good for bicycles, bad for motorbikes IMO.
No offence man but that doesn't really make sense... Id rather have a very slow puncture due to ultra seal then an explosive one without it. I know which would hinder my health the most. :(


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