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TEC 24-02-10 10:42 PM

Re: Falkland islands
 
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Originally Posted by ravingdavis (Post 2192698)
....This is a similar situation to 1983, trouble in the Argentine homeland .....

Know that was a typo ;) but you are probably not far wrong about the reason it may all kick off again though back then it wasn't exactly oil near the islands ....

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Originally Posted by yorkie_chris (Post 2192990)
... US built A4 jets ...

Don't forget the UK built ships they had, even if they did stay in port while we were down there :rolleyes:

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... nuclear subs should have had free reign to knock holes in anything Argentinian at sea.
One day the full story will be told, but you have to guess before then why the Argentinian navy didn't put to sea on 25th May 1982 ;)

One other bit of info that was sort of glossed over back then was the The Antarctic Treaty (1959). One bit of the treaty is supposed to prevent soverenty claims, of course the Junta never signed it so assumed they could ignore it in the hope of claiming the territory of Graham Land when the treaty came up for renewal, a known location for minerals and oil exploration. One reason the scrappies were sent to the South Shetland Isles rather than invade FI first

husky03 24-02-10 10:54 PM

Re: Falkland islands
 
you take a walk in the streets of the uk today and ask people what the priority is -another unjust war thousands of miles away or feeding and clothing their family-i think i know the answer to that.
As for my ancestors-aye right couldn't give a flying feck.

ZSV650 -care to explain your comment?

ophic 24-02-10 10:57 PM

Re: Falkland islands
 
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Originally Posted by husky03 (Post 2193735)
you take a walk in the streets of the uk today and ask people what the priority is -another unjust war thousands of miles away or feeding and clothing their family-i think i know the answer to that.

The only reason you're allowed to walk the streets is because of what has been fought for and won. And loading the question with "unjust" simply isn't accurate. Unjust to you?
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Originally Posted by husky03 (Post 2193735)
As for my ancestors-aye right couldn't give a flying feck.

Well that just says it all.

husky03 24-02-10 11:01 PM

Re: Falkland islands
 
too bloody right unjust to me-the same as the wars in the middle east-comes down to oil.

says what?

ethariel 24-02-10 11:04 PM

Re: Falkland islands
 
If i remember correctly, some 250 british servicemen lost thier lives in the taking of those forsaken chunks of rock.

One of the main reasons (obviously not all the reasons) behind it is that they WANT to remain British.

Before the first invasion, they may have had a chance at a politicaly negotiated 'power share' or 'joint venture', but after invading they must surely know that it will never be!

Any government actually being stupid enough to give away the falklands would spend the next 5 years with no councilors let alone MP's.

I'm British by birth and anyone who is british has a right to remain british if they want to.

BanditPat 24-02-10 11:05 PM

Re: Falkland islands
 
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Originally Posted by husky03 (Post 2193738)
too bloody right unjust to me-the same as the wars in the middle east-comes down to oil.

says what?

No the falklands is about protecting British citizens and out overseas territory

zsv650 24-02-10 11:07 PM

Re: Falkland islands
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by husky03 (Post 2193735)
you take a walk in the streets of the uk today and ask people what the priority is -another unjust war thousands of miles away or feeding and clothing their family-i think i know the answer to that.
As for my ancestors-aye right couldn't give a flying feck.

ZSV650 -care to explain your comment?

life is not all sugar plums and pear drop's sometimes there are bad people who you can't reason with trying too hurt innocent people would you suggest just leaving these people our people too fend for themselves.

ophic 24-02-10 11:11 PM

Re: Falkland islands
 
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Originally Posted by husky03 (Post 2193738)
too bloody right unjust to me-the same as the wars in the middle east-comes down to oil.

says what?

Unless you've got some evidence to the contrary, it seems quite unlikely that the Falklands dispute is over oil. If you have evidence, perhaps you could share it, rather than saying the same thing over and over and hoping that it convinces us all by osmosis or hypnotism.

What I don't understand is, what is unjust about Britain defending its sovereign territory? Exactly what definition of "unjust" are you applying here?

Considering you have no respect for your own ancestors, it's no surprise you have no respect for anything else. I'm surprised you're even bothering to argue the point here - shouldn't you just roll over and give up, like you're advocating?

Nobbylad 24-02-10 11:16 PM

Re: Falkland islands
 
I really don't think either side has the appetite for conflict and the bluster from the South Americas at the moment is a convenient stage show to rally support for the government.

That said, I do have Desire, Rockhopper, Ascent and Petrochemical in my portfolio...so fingers crossed we get the black stuff pumping!

yorkie_chris 24-02-10 11:27 PM

Re: Falkland islands
 
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Originally Posted by husky03 (Post 2193738)
too bloody right unjust to me-the same as the wars in the middle east-comes down to oil.

says what?

That oil maintains your way of life like it or not.


Not to mention this is a war of aggression against us, we are not going and invading somewhere for a laugh or because G W B told us to.
You put your location as Scotland, would you defend Wales if the French invaded?
By that logic who should give a damn about anything.

I agree violence is not to be used lightly, but when uncivilised people threaten violence against you there is no other option.


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