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Grinch 22-05-07 08:00 PM

Re: Spelling, Grammar and the like.
 
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Originally Posted by gettin2dizzy (Post 1193951)
What about apostrophe use? ;)

Who?

Lissa 22-05-07 08:06 PM

Re: Spelling, Grammar and the like.
 
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Originally Posted by Grinch (Post 1193947)
I have enough trouble with comas.

That's what watching Soaps does to you!

:D :D :D :D :D

K 22-05-07 10:58 PM

Re: Spelling, Grammar and the like.
 
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Originally Posted by Steve H (Post 1193674)
I find it really annoying when people hide behind the fact that they are Dyslexic, wherein they have actually been let down by the awful education system of this country. :smt013

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Originally Posted by gettin2dizzy (Post 1193839)
Yeah I agree. Thats winds me up too. I think a lot of people find it easier to think - I must be dyslexic - and give up on learning.

Ooooh, can you two move over I need some room on this particular soapbox too please.

Being an 'individual of Dyslexic enjoyment' (hey, it can be entertaining at times so I wouldn't say I'm a 'sufferer'), who managed to hold down a job as a proof reader for a pharmaceutical company, I detest seeing it used as an excuse.
You just need to make the effort to take the time to find the right methods/tools/techniques...
... or just rely on sheer bloodymindedness. Hey, worked for me.;)

One of the reasons I learned to pretty much touch-type as then my fingers 'generally' know what their doing when connected to my brain rather than letting my eyes screw it up.

Text-speak when you have a full keyboard at your disposal is just plain lazy. Which as you are meant to be trying to communicate to other people makes is also somewhat rude in my book.

It does make me sad though when people don't think very much of themselves. Take those poor individuals who feel they don't even rate the capitalisation of 'I', perhaps they just need a hug or something wet like that.;)

MeridiaNx 22-05-07 11:12 PM

Re: Spelling, Grammar and the like.
 
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Originally Posted by Steve H (Post 1193674)
You are not being unreasonable in any way. The quality of spelling and grammar that has been taught in schools for the last 10 years or so is non existant. In my opinion, most current teachers' would not have much of a clue either.
I find it really annoying when people hide behind the fact that they are Dyslexic, wherein they have actually been let down by the awful education system of this country. :smt013

Oooh, please let that be intentionally ironic ;)

the_runt69 22-05-07 11:29 PM

Re: Spelling, Grammar and the like.
 
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Originally Posted by Luckypants (Post 1193879)
To use your analogy above, you may not be required to take a written test at an interview but you most certainly will have had to make a written application to get the interview in the first place.

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have just got an interview for a senior position with a train company. Applied on the website and it even had a spell checker on there to assist.

Saying that as an ex grammer school boy my spelling isnt normally too bad its the typing that lets me down.

gettin2dizzy 23-05-07 12:22 AM

Re: Spelling, Grammar and the like.
 
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Originally Posted by K (Post 1194129)
Ooooh, can you two move over I need some room on this particular soapbox too please.

Being an 'individual of Dyslexic enjoyment' (hey, it can be entertaining at times so I wouldn't say I'm a 'sufferer'), who managed to hold down a job as a proof reader for a pharmaceutical company, I detest seeing it used as an excuse.
You just need to make the effort to take the time to find the right methods/tools/techniques...
... or just rely on sheer bloodymindedness. Hey, worked for me.;)

One of the reasons I learned to pretty much touch-type as then my fingers 'generally' know what their doing when connected to my brain rather than letting my eyes screw it up.

Text-speak when you have a full keyboard at your disposal is just plain lazy. Which as you are meant to be trying to communicate to other people makes is also somewhat rude in my book.

It does make me sad though when people don't think very much of themselves. Take those poor individuals who feel they don't even rate the capitalisation of 'I', perhaps they just need a hug or something wet like that.;)

Sorry, I wasn't dismissing dyslexia, just saying there are a lot of people who can claim to have it out of sheer laziness (and believe it themselves). However I also believe that people have different strengths and weaknesses; some are good with numbers, some abysmal:- the same applies to words. Your attitude of not letting dyslexia hold you back in any way is fantastic (I really hope that didn't come across in any way as patronising, I mean it :)), and testament to the fact that your condition does exist. However when people claim dyslexia yet make no effort to learn beyond diagnosis I find is often just an excuse not to use their head at all. My ex used to complain about how she was so so bad at numbers, and made no effort to learn. A week after working in a cafe and her mental arithmetic was quicker than mine (training as an engineer :p). It's a similar scenario to ADHD, that the over-diagnosis of children has caused the credibility of the condition to dwindle. Why blame yourself for being a bad parent when ADHD can be blamed and a drug can be used? Yet parents out there WILL be suffering under the burden of having a child with the condition but the public sympathy is being constantly diluted.
I feel for anyone who suffers directly of indirectly for either of these conditions, and I hope they understand my attack is on the 'impostors' making their life harder, not challenging the condition itself :)

On the other hand- I write a lot of rubbish :)

Jester666 23-05-07 12:26 AM

Re: Spelling, Grammar and the like.
 
As long as it makes sense it's ok! :D

Not many people can write proper anyway!! :D

Lissa 23-05-07 06:11 AM

Re: Spelling, Grammar and the like.
 
I was fortunate enough to pass the 11+ and win a scholarship to an extremely good Private school, but even before I started there I had learned to spell and use grammar correctly at my previous school. In my day, that was considered very important.

The difference today is marked. My younger son also passed the 11+ and attended the local Grammar school, my other two children didn't. The work he was expected to do and the expectation that he would use correct spellings and grammar was in complete contrast to the attitude that as long as they did some work then the rest didn't matter that was prevalant at the two State schools. I was the one who checked their work for proper spelling and grammar and pointed out their mistakes, the teachers certainly never did.

I also used to pull them up on lazy talking and incorrect use of words. The one that used to drive me absolutely wild was the habit they picked up of saying 'He goes, she goes' instead of 'He said, she said', as in 'And then he goes,'No, I didn't'. AAAARGH!!!! I hasten to add that none of them say that anymore:D

As for text speak.................I really hate it. I don't even use text speak in a text!:D

SoulKiss 23-05-07 07:30 AM

Re: Spelling, Grammar and the like.
 
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Originally Posted by K (Post 1194129)
Text-speak when you have a full keyboard at your disposal is just plain lazy. Which as you are meant to be trying to communicate to other people makes is also somewhat rude in my book.

It does make me sad though when people don't think very much of themselves. Take those poor individuals who feel they don't even rate the capitalisation of 'I', perhaps they just need a hug or something wet like that.;)

So whats wet and like a hug - sounds interesting..........

On the 1st point, well thats why I prefer to call someone than text on my mobile - takes ages to type real words on a phone but I refuse to use text-speak abbreviations.

stewie 23-05-07 07:33 AM

Re: Spelling, Grammar and the like.
 
I must be a bit anal as I actually use full stops, commas and the like when I text people, I must get a life ;)


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