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whats that quote spidy loves
first they came for the comunists
then they ame for the trade unionists .....................
british people are under threat of invasion, i dont care if its 10 mile away or 10,000. we go and make sure there safe, and unhampered
would i go, mmmm yes i have the last few do's we have had
husky tbh mate i think your point is your just sick of wars, which to be fair is a noble point, and imho this is just a pr stunt by the argies, but the defence of any british citizen is the piority/and reason for the forces
its why they exist, to defend the nation and its interests,
just my 2p there peeps

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To me, it's up to the people of the falkland islands. Both the UK and Argentina are democracies, the people have the power. Now to me, it makes perfect sense that the only people eligable for deciding who the Falkland islands belongs to is the inhabitants. I know it sounds a bit idealistic but if they wan't to remain British, than the Argentinian Govt best listen to them. Vice versa, if they want to join the Argies then so be it. I feel the same way about Gibraltar btw.

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I can 100% confirm that Falkland Islanders are hugely patriotic to Britain and the Queen. To a far greater extent than the majority of civvies in the UK are, and certainly more than Husky it would seem. In fact your view is blinkered and flawed at best, and the whole situation i believe is beyond your comprehension. Just my opinion, based on what you've said so far.....

The 1982 conflict was absolutely not about oil reserves. It was about defending an (albeit weak) aggressor invading on our territory. Oil exploration there, especially since it's at deep sea, in the early 80's was simply far too expensive to justify. Remember, at the time we had only just begun tapping the North Sea fields, and oil prices were far more palatable worldwide anyway. Oh, and they hadn't actually discovered it's existence there in 82, a minor point, i know! :P

I have, I guess around 50 family members on various parts of the Falklands. My mum was born and brought up there, but came to Britain in the early 60's. However, amongst those held hostage in the hall at Goose Green were my gran (in her 80's at the time), and some of her immediate family. As such I am extremely grateful to our lads for ensuring their safety and the sacrifice made by many at the time. And I would hope the majority of us in the UK would be in support of defending them again. Hopefully it won't come to that.

Their geographical location is bound to lead to apathy amongst some, but it is British soil and invasion upon it should be fought every time. How would the doubters feel if we hadn't done a damn thing after the 7/7 bombings in London? And even worse, if our military intelligence had known beforehand of the perputrators intent? Would you be happy if the Government had simply shrugged it's shoulders?

Just because you think it isn't affecting you directly Husky, doesn't mean it isn't and doesn't mean you wont offend those in 'earshot' of your POV, so to speak. You'd be surprised who around you it will make a difference to. Think lad.

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Simply because the Falklands is not directly connected to the mainland you are devaluing the existence of the islanders, they pay their dues and as such should be offered the same level of protection that we take for granted here in the UK. Can I just emphasise this 'take for granted', people do not seem to realise the quality of protection that we are given in this country and what our armed forces have achieved and continue to achieve.

Also I really do not understand how our continued maintenance of sovereignty over the islands can be linked to oil at all? Any idea of exploration for oil in 1982 was considered expensive and frivolous, if anything it is argentine greed for oil and resources that is pushing the current relations crisis, they, in 2007 pulled out of the agreement relating to oil exploration did they not?

As for your comment regarding the willingness to send family to fight your damn right I would, I may not have sons or daughters to sent but I have a serving father and I would be more than happy to see him on his way to serve British citizens wherever they may be. I've seen him clear off to so many hellholes across the globe to get involved in conflicts in lands that are not our own it would actually be good to see him working directly for our own people.

You take the Queen's shilling, you better expect to be made to earn it.

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I agree, there is a difference between the once glorius British Empire and a small island who's inhabitants wish to belong to the UK. I think it's the distance that makes the connection stronger. I for one would not like to see the Falkland Islans fall into the hands of the Argentinians. If we run by the idea that because it was owned by person X ages ago, person Y should lose possession. So what, give the US and Canada back to the nativ americans, most of Europe back to the italians and most of Asia to the Mongols.

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I have enjoyed this "discussion", as it has made me feel quite proud to be British in that the majority of people on here want the Falklands to remain "British" for the right reasons...ie.....for the people.

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Actually fine, the 7/7 bombings are a police matter, as they were committed by petty criminals. Do not give such savages the recognition of calling it an "act of war". As that's what lets Uncle Gordie destroy whatever freedom's left.

Not even related, there were never any natives that we kicked off.

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To me, it makes no difference. Whether it's for the people, the land, the oil, "strategic sheep-farming", or any combination, it's British. It belongs to Britain. No-one else has any right to take it.

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And there it is. A good point, well made. Tidy.

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davis mate 1st as uou know from my post i agree with your stance on the subject
but that first bit was a bit ott dont ya think, husky is a good lad with his own opinion on this subject, you dont know his history of personal reasons for his position ,so just lay off the direct attacks, it may get your goat what he said but just keep things in perspective

my second is quite right to be proud of your family and what they have done, and im sure if you asked him he was happy to earn his shilling and do what he has done, i also think he'd agree with feeling happier to defend our own than any other op but thats just my humble opinion
dave