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Sally 18-06-09 03:51 PM

Re: Drunk or just plain daft
 
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Originally Posted by Milky Bar Kid (Post 1944935)
What a stupid comparison....! It is nothing like a girl crying rape.

Sorry for derail.

Why?

Its the same sort of situation, doing something stupid/something you regret, and then claiming you were too drunk to consent/wasn't fully aware of what is happening/what happened..

Happened to a mate of mine, even though it was proved she made the whole thing up, but hes still felt a knock on, same situation for the tattoist, when he gets found innocent, his reputation would still be affected/tarred.

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Originally Posted by gruntygiggles (Post 1945735)
Stupid might be a bit harsh....

Might not have the same consequence, but I know what Sally is saying......someone does something, regrets it the next day and fabricates a story so as not feel ashamed, stupid or get in trouble.

Aye, that near enough sums it up.

Milky Bar Kid 18-06-09 05:17 PM

Re: Drunk or just plain daft
 
I just don't think you can compare something like this to a girl crying rape! The tattoo artist in this case will be cleared as the whole world realises the girl is lying and I think she will eventually realise how silly she is being and admit it.

As for someone crying rape, its an ENTIRELY different situation, in many cases it goes as far as the male standing up in court as an accused before the girl finally admits it. Some men will never lose that stigma.

gruntygiggles 18-06-09 05:25 PM

Re: Drunk or just plain daft
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Milky Bar Kid (Post 1945989)
I just don't think you can compare something like this to a girl crying rape! The tattoo artist in this case will be cleared as the whole world realises the girl is lying and I think she will eventually realise how silly she is being and admit it.

As for someone crying rape, its an ENTIRELY different situation, in many cases it goes as far as the male standing up in court as an accused before the girl finally admits it. Some men will never lose that stigma.

No one will dispute that difference MBK.....but the simple comparison of girl being stupid and then laying blame on someone else is perfectly acceptable. I know what false allegations can mean for someone....NOT GOOD and mud sticks.........but it was just a simple example.

Love ya chick x

Sally 18-06-09 05:28 PM

Re: Drunk or just plain daft
 
You can you say it in a more understanding and better way to me? :( haha

Cheers... :)

yorkie_chris 18-06-09 05:30 PM

Re: Drunk or just plain daft
 
Is it wrong I find this pretty funny?

Jamesbridges, ace troll.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Milky Bar Kid (Post 1944935)
What a stupid comparison....! It is nothing like a girl crying rape.

Sorry for derail.

Quote:

Originally Posted by gruntygiggles (Post 1945735)
Stupid might be a bit harsh....

Might not have the same consequence, but I know what Sally is saying......someone does something, regrets it the next day and fabricates a story so as not feel ashamed, stupid or get in trouble.

The comparison stands.

Milky Bar Kid 18-06-09 05:42 PM

Re: Drunk or just plain daft
 
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Originally Posted by gruntygiggles (Post 1945997)
No one will dispute that difference MBK.....but the simple comparison of girl being stupid and then laying blame on someone else is perfectly acceptable. I know what false allegations can mean for someone....NOT GOOD and mud sticks.........but it was just a simple example.

Love ya chick x

Cheryl, love you too!X

BUT! I understand the basics behind the comparison, ie girl doing something stupid and blaming it on someone else but I just don't think the girl crying rape comment was justified in this case.

Stupid teenage girl getting 56 stars on her face and saying that she only want 3 and making up a totally unbelievable story that she fell asleep = trivial IMHO.

Stupid teenage girl getting drunk, sleeping with a lad then crying rape = a HUGE life changing, horrible, horrible scenario.

I just don't think people should make comparisons about things on TOTALLY different scales! However, the word STUPID appears to have been taken out of context, I do not think for a minute sally is stupid.

AND, everytime someone makes a comment like such, they belittle every other female that has gotten drunk and has REALLY been raped. I am not saying that any members on this forum would for a minute be included in this but in the general public's eyes, it helps add an element of disbelief to any females story.

Rant over........for now!

Spiderman 18-06-09 05:48 PM

Re: Drunk or just plain daft
 
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Originally Posted by yorkie_chris (Post 1946009)
Is it wrong I find this pretty funny?

If it is then i'm on thw worng side of the fence with you :lol:

Jamiebridges123 18-06-09 06:46 PM

Re: Drunk or just plain daft
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Milky Bar Kid (Post 1945989)
I just don't think you can compare something like this to a girl crying rape! The tattoo artist in this case will be cleared as the whole world realises the girl is lying and I think she will eventually realise how silly she is being and admit it.

I don't think she'll ever "admit" it, rather just shut up about it and let it fade away quietly.. ;)

carty 19-06-09 08:02 AM

Re: Drunk or just plain daft
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Milky Bar Kid (Post 1946020)
Stupid teenage girl getting 56 stars on her face and saying that she only want 3 and making up a totally unbelievable story that she fell asleep = trivial IMHO.

Stupid teenage girl getting drunk, sleeping with a lad then crying rape = a HUGE life changing, horrible, horrible scenario.

I have to say I also don't agree with the comparison between tattooed stars and rape but I would say that having those stars on your face would be a 'huge life changing horrible horrible scenario'. :smt001

A girl who willingly and knowingly sleeps with someone and then cries rape, potentially landing the bloke in jail or at the very least wasting time and causing anguish to a lot of people, is quite different to a girl who got a ridiculous tattoo, then backtracked and pretended she didn't ask for it to be so big when she found out how stupid it looked and that no-one liked it. IMO.

metalangel 19-06-09 08:24 AM

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Isn't there some law that it is possible to be too intoxicated to properly give consent?


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