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:lol: ...whingers.




Legislation to forces restaurants to disclose the nutritional content of their meals? Great idea! ; alternatively just eat the one meal ;) Does anyone really need to know this stuff?

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oh; and I'm eating spaghetti bolognese with mince and sausages, and having a rum & coke at the mo. ;)

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pah.... I eat what I want....and i had spag bol fer tea too. don't have or ever will have anyone telling me what i can and can't eat. Oh and now i'm eating a rather nice selection of terry's chocolates

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yeah; I ate 1/2 kilo of beef mince this evening :)
yum.

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which contained about 200g of fat

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Where did the idea of 'them' telling you what you can and can't eat come from? Disclosing nutritional content isn't remotely the same thing.

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It's bad enough these days with people reading every little thing on the back of packets but restaurants as well? So you're saying it's now gonna take 5 times as long for my meal to be brought out because the waiters were too busy dealing with someone giving them the third degree about how much fat that cheese sauce has? no thanks. I'd rather get takeaway :D

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I didn't say 'them' can't see 'them' written in there. I'm just fed up of mad media, government suggestions to 'adult' people how they should eat, or live. I want to eat a meal because it tastes nice and gives me satisfaction. wether it be Mac D's or that banana sat in my fruit bowl. I know the nutritional content of m d's is crap, I know a banana is good for me. I don't need it in writing. However, If I want my son to eat healthy or not is up to me. I am the one to educate him not some bloke in an office on the big brother health kick. Great to keep kids in the know, fair enough, but I'm big enough to make my own mind up.
And no I wouldn't want that either.

Oh and no I'm not some fat bloater that sits in an armchair all day neither. I'm a slim bloater that sits in an armchair all day....lol
who incidently spent ten years as a gymnast, then a few running. and my body is foobarred from
a- being hypermobile
b- doing far too much exercise




there i feel better now...rant over and back to the box of chocs and a big cuppa with full fat milk

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Personally I think its a great idea, most fast food place already have the info. I don't think it should be on the menu but I think it should be available if people want to know, seriously overweight people obviously have a problem controlling what they eat and if they can be offered the information it might make them think.

I dont think this is about telling people what they can eat, that would probaly come under the "fat tax" which has been mentioned in the press, it just lets the less well informed of us have a choice.

Since tesco started making there home brand food there are a few things which I now dont buy, pork pies etc because I dont want to eat a 500 calorie snack. Which didn't taste that good in the first place anyway.

After all you have a choice not to read the labels in the first place

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to me its a case of where does this whole thing end?? at the end of the day all the writing in the world can't stop a person putting what they want to eat in their mouth. No matter how much they know whats in it, even after reading the small print, some people will still eat it. thing is though, you can only get an average of what 'said meal' has within it anyway.

I'd far rather Jaime Oliver, that i'm watching now, put a show on about the lives of chickens, they don't have a choice in their lives, we do it for them.

Or make everyone watch 'super size me' because thats a more entertaining way of displaying the facts about naff food

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Personally, as someone who suffers from high cholesterol I'd be happy to see restaurants displaying nutritional information (fat content) on their menus so that I can make a more informed choice about the food I eat because ultimately I'm in a situation where I have to ... if I choose to ignore it, then that's my tough luck (and will probably have a heart attack), but I'd rather have that choice in the first place.

It makes me laugh tho, my other 'alf will cringe if she sees me putting butter or oil into anything I cook, but she doesn't give it a 2nd thought when we eat out :confused:

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bit of a broad statement that, i know a few over-weight people who actually eat very well and no matter how hard they try the weight won't come down. Usually due to a genetic thing and therefore there's not a reyt lot they can do about it - if your folks are both big then there's a very good chance you will be too. Also a number of drugs will make you put on weight. You can't look at every overweight person and assume they eat too much.

exactly. if there is a specific need to look at nutritional content i.e. specific dietary requirements due to health/intolerances then yes it would be a good idea. But you'd ask that anyway. I wouldn't have any real objection to having the information on a menu, I don't have to read it if I don't want to. It doesn't hurt to add it in. What I can't do with is people who discuss it constantly, there are lasses here at uni where calories etc is their main topic of conversation, bores me to tears. Life is far too short. Rubbish food is known to be bad and others good, its a matter of what you choose to eat and whether you're happy with that choice and most people are.

At the moment I'm happy with what I eat, which is anything i like plus a few healthy things chucked in for good measure.

I am currently sat with a bowl of weetaflakes, strawberry yoghurt and banana, and I've just realised I'm only eating it as there's not a lot in my cupboard :rolleyes: but it's nice and it'll do as brain fuel.....damn exams....

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Well, many resteraunts/menus already pander to veggies by telling you whether something died to make your meal...

... and (more importantly) to those growing numbers (it seems) with allergies so they know if their lunch is going to provide the rest of the diners with a first-hand show of anaphalactic shock or something. ;)

So I guess having a little additional symbol to warn people that the wafer thin mint on the menu is likely to cause overweight diners to explode may be a good thing.:D


As for my diet, best not go there. I'm a nutritionists nightmare. :oops:

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Surely you mean a "waaafur theen meent"

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I welcome the idea. Afterall no-one is telling you how to eat, they are just providing the nutrional information of the food. Surely more information is preferable than none? If you don't want to know then don't read it. I like to eat healthily 99% of the time purely as I look after myself, on the occasion that I do like to eat a nice burger (not fast food variety) I won't care what the fat content is as I know it will be high. The other point to make is that more and more people are becoming ill from obesity or just plain bad nutrition, so the government have to do something. If they provide more info and peope still chose to eat cr*p and get ill then they've covered themselves. The amount of obese people who complain that MC D's don't provide nutritional information no longer have that excuse. If you like that kind of food go for it, but be aware of the dangers to your health. Mind you, what really gets to me is the people who moan about their weight but think there is a easy option to get rid of it. It's quite simple to work out really, consume less calories per day than your body uses and you will lose weight. Fad diets are another pet hate of mine. Total waste of time and some are dangerous to your health. All you need is a sensible diet and some regular excercise. It seems our country has grown fat and very lazy. Rant over! ;)

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Fair point a bit of a broad statement but personally I believe the vast majority of people who claim that their weight is because of an illness could in fact lose weight if they tried and use illness as an excuse. I'm not saying that it might not be harder for them but there is some basic in-out science going on here.

Also IMO if you parents are larger you are likely to be larger not because genetics but more to do with social environment. Humans have been around a long time but large amounts of obesity is a newish thing that has appeared as jobs have become more sedentary and high calorie food is more available.

Some of this sounds harsh and the food we eat now is much more addictive, especially refined sugars and the chemicals in fast food. When I stop eating cakes, chocolate etc after a week I find I don't crave them anymore.

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:lol: try living with someone like this. The 'nothing' that they eat is very different if you keep an eye one them. It's like living with a gambler; they fool themselves.

Anyone who claims metabolism slow down is a cause for putting on weight clearly misses the point; those with a slow metabolism should feel less hungry as their body is demanding less. If you have a slow metabolism your body demands food less often - yes you heard that - it's true.

As for genetics? I think one hole is bigger than the other and that's as far as it goes ;)

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Who will pick up the costs for this? I've never read a nutritional breakdown of my groceries never mind a meal, it's obvious what is good and what is bad for you. We don't need more fees paid to work out how much healthier an apple is than a sticky toffee pudding! Are people that ignorant?!

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I'd forgotten about him...for all those who don't know who he is>>>>>>>



http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=BlK62rjQWLk

enjoy

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As far as I knew we were talking about food in restaurants, not fruit. Although if you eat too much fruit you can still get fat (all those simple carbs). Moderation is the key word. Anyway, the tax payer will pick up this bill of course. :rolleyes: And yes some people really are that ignorant unfortunately.

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and you can overdose on bananas too, they can be fatal. Something to do with cyanide seems to ring a bell. you do have to eat about 50 in a day though :rolleyes:

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I'm overweight. I'd love to have a reason for this, but plain and simple I eat too much and don't do enough! The Dispatches program in the thread title debunked the ideas of 'slow metabolism', 'the fat gene' etc. I know if I want to lose weight, I need to eat less calories that I use. The best way I found is to write everything down and stop at 1500 Calories. Trouble is, that is no fun and I'm a lazy git. I think that is most fat folks problem.

Having said all the above there are of course exceptions. There are folks who get fat despite everything but they have a medical condition. These folks deserve our help and understanding, but they are a tiny minority.

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But at least you acknowlegde the problem and take some measures to combat it. I have the utmost respect for the larger people I see in the gym, they are taking steps to improve their health and it's not easy. There are always those who ahve true illnesses where they put weight on no matter what, I truly feel for these people.

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pants ain't overweight he's just cuddly. anyway he does extreme sports

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I hope you never see me with a shirt off.... and twice in a kayak this year don't count.

but thanks anyway, kind lady.

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LOL!!

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Hey, we're only just over half-way through January - give yourself a break ;-) and a pat on the back (if you can reach :-P)

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This is why..... Linky

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I dont watch what i eat, can ya tell? :lol:

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:smt082

Mike you made my day

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Who provided him with the video :D lol

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erm, youtube???

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God Dizz its only a few months since you've seen me and you've forgotton what i look like.....

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I didn't see the programme last night so cannot comment on the content of it.

However, surely it's a good idea to see what we're eating? I'm very concious of what I eat at home, so why wouldn't I want this when I eat out?

And if somebosy was following a strict calorie controlled diet, the only way presently to ensure that you know your calorie intake is by NOT eating out (or being very selective of your restaurants).

As for Jamie 'Hypocricy' Oliver - when he stops representing Sainsburys for the princely sum of £1.2 each year, then he may be taken a little more seriously.

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grilled haddock, boiled peas, and mash potato with tabasco...:smt074

might nip out for a kabab laters...:smt077

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oh the shame of it....do you know that the humble kebab is the worst type of food you can buy......but settles rather nicely after a tankful of beer:-)

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Alright then, 'anyone' rather than 'them'. The point is the same, the implication is that there is a person/group of people telling you what to eat. Availability of information for those who choose to consult it doesn't seem too controlling to me...

Fair play to you, you know the risks, you make an informed decision to ignore the health issues in favour of enjoying the meal. I do. I'm sure most of us do. You ignore the information provided by the government, doesn't mean it can't provide it for those who do want to know does it?

Playing devil's advocate here: only if you are informed enough to 'educate' him yourself. I'm sure you are, but plenty of people out there are not. Should the health - and everything that follows from that, sport = social skills perhaps, self-esteem issues if overweight, performance at school therefore potential career implications - of children suffer because their parents haven't got a clue what they are doing/don't care/think curries and beer every day is healthy?

Some stuff is common sense - crisps and chocolate bars aren't going to keep you in tip top shape if not eaten in moderation. But some things out there that appear healthy, or are marketed as such, can pack horrendous ingredients/calories/fat if you check the label. I think it is useful that these things are not allowed to slip through the net, which is what published nutrional information allows, should one choose to read it. I still don't see how more information = telling you what you must buy or eat. If you don't want the info, don't read it.

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finally had time to watch it lol, that was hilarious! gotta love the python :D

I'm guessing those sketches in that Little Britain were nicked from that tut tut.

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3 problems IMO
- media whinging about everything
- fatties sueing McD's etc for "making them fat" what stupidity from the justice system to allow this sort of thing.
- Government employees, as usual feathering their own nests, creating another black hole in spending which'll need another pile of tax taking on fuel and fags and everything else.


Is that smudge plus a few pounds? :p

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I reckon the information should be available, it's more a question of how. Frinstance, you are in a MacDonalds, which of these 15 different meal options contains the most fat? People are talking as though it's obvious then giving ridiculous examples, "what's worse, an apple or a sticky toffee pudding". That's obviously not representative (and if you use examples like that, it kind of undermines your argument tbh) but how about "what's worse, a double cheeseburger or a cheeseburger with fries?" I haven't a clue, it depends on how they make the fries, what's in the burger, what's in the cheese... So, it'd be good to be able to find out. Salt content, too, is posisbly an issue, stuff like that. It means you can make an informed decision, and you can choose for yourself.

But then, I'm a diabetic with coeliac disease so I would be in favour of better information on what I'm eating :D I'm sick of going to restaurants and having no clue at all what I'm putting in my body, and asking restaurant staff who a) haven't the slightest idea what wheat gluten is and b) couldn't give a ****.