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missyburd 29-02-08 09:26 AM

The women are taking over....
 
I stumbled across this today, bit of a long article but some quite startling evidence about the potential future of men with regards to fertility. You can skip past the first bit about the starlings as there's probably only me that's interested in that bit :mrgreen:

Singing starlings and why thousands of babies who should have been boys are being born as girls

Future not looking bright for you men I'm afraid, I guess women really will take over the world muahahaha :smt029

Law 29-02-08 09:39 AM

Re: The women are taking over....
 
Read that yesterday in the daily mail, it's all an evil plot by women. Dumping hormones in water. Grrr!

More women around is not necessarily a bad thing, more choice for us guys! :smt112

Jester666 29-02-08 09:40 AM

Re: The women are taking over....
 
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Originally Posted by missyorkie_chris (Post 1432780)
Future not looking bright for you men I'm afraid.

Disagree!!

More laydeeez for us!!! :lol:

Tim in Belgium 29-02-08 09:47 AM

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Did my masters project on this at the UK Centre for Ecology and Hydrology and how to break down ethinyloestradiol (EE2) by improved sewage treatment work. They are still working on it, it's a problem that has been around for a while.

the_lone_wolf 29-02-08 09:49 AM

Re: The women are taking over....
 
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Originally Posted by missyorkie_chris (Post 1432780)
Future not looking bright for you men I'm afraid, I guess women really will take over the world muahahaha :smt029

Possibly true, but then when we're all gone, whose laundry will you do?

;)

Jester666 29-02-08 09:52 AM

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**Sits back and waits for the girls to maul TLWolf** :lol:

the_lone_wolf 29-02-08 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Jester666 (Post 1432811)
**Sits back and waits for the girls to maul TLWolf** :lol:

yeah baby


**TLW smears treacle on himself**


come get me...

:smt008

Law 29-02-08 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by the_lone_wolf (Post 1432812)
yeah baby


**TLW smears treacle on himself**


come get me...

:smt008

Calling Mr. Treacle.

TLW wants to smear you on himself! :lol:

Even more girls for us straight blokes! :D :lol:

the_lone_wolf 29-02-08 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Law (Post 1432817)
Calling Mr. Treacle.

TLW wants to smear you on himself! :lol:

awesome, a little menage a trois...


wait, this is all wrong:eek:

Baph 29-02-08 10:01 AM

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I love the statistics used in that article:

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Originally Posted by article

Normally 106 boys are born for every 100 girls, in what is thought to be nature's way of compensating for the fact that males were more likely to be killed hunting or in conflict. But increasingly this ratio is slipping - it is calculated that 250,000 babies who would have been boys have been born girls in the U.S. and Japan alone.

OK, but don't tell us how many babies were born in the US and Japan, and the original 106/100 statistic was taken globally, so why narrow the field of observation?

This link (http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0005083.html) shows more accurate statistical information, and shows that total population gender differences are changing on average by 0.15 females per male per year. Some places, such as the former USSR, have far higher proportion of women to men, whereas others like China, have far more men than the global average.

That means less choice for women year on year, and more choice for us men. How is that a bad thing for us directly? That would mean that in the future, if we're not happy with how we're being treated by any woman, we go and find another, much easier.

But for the genepool as a whole, well, there's nothing conclusive from this research :)

Biker Biggles 29-02-08 10:35 AM

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There doesnt seem to be a global shortage of men(or women)at the moment,and no prospect of such a shortage.You could argue that nearly all our worlds problems are caused by too many men and women-----


Discuss.

Baph 29-02-08 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Biker Biggles (Post 1432866)
You could argue that nearly all our worlds problems are caused by too many men and women-----
Discuss.

China have a good setup. Maybe something from China can be adopted :D China's setup is:

If you want children, you MUST have a marriage licence first. Then you have to apply for a licence for each child (which the state can decline if they so wish).

It's only possible to have one child licence, regardless of your social status/wealth etc.

If you have unlicenced children (out of wedlock or too many kids) then you're severely fined, and if you can't pay the fine, you're imprisoned.

However, they are thinking of stopping this policy, mainly as it leads to unlicenced children being sold on the black market.

Biker Biggles 29-02-08 11:19 AM

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The Chinese arent a democracy,thus enabling them to play the long game.They will rule the world within fifty years,or destroy it in the attempt.

the_lone_wolf 29-02-08 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Biker Biggles (Post 1432907)
The Chinese arent a democracy,thus enabling them to play the long game.They will rule the world within fifty years...

very true...

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Originally Posted by Biker Biggles (Post 1432907)
...or destroy it in the attempt.

not so true, you're thinking of america

:smt066

;)

missyburd 29-02-08 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by the_lone_wolf (Post 1432807)
Possibly true, but then when we're all gone, whose laundry will you do?

;)

our own? :-S

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baph (Post 1432824)
That means less choice for women year on year, and more choice for us men. How is that a bad thing for us directly? That would mean that in the future, if we're not happy with how we're being treated by any woman, we go and find another, much easier.

ok so in the short term the competition between females for males is no doubt beneficial to men, but in terms of widening a gene pool = not good!! we'll all become inbred....I say 'become' obviously some may have already beaten us to it :lol:


Quote:

Originally Posted by Baph (Post 1432900)
China have a good setup. Maybe something from China can be adopted :D China's setup is:

If you want children, you MUST have a marriage licence first. Then you have to apply for a licence for each child (which the state can decline if they so wish).

I've always thought that was quite a good policy, would deter the chavs from breeding :D

Ceri JC 29-02-08 11:51 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Biker Biggles (Post 1432866)
There doesnt seem to be a global shortage of men(or women)at the moment,and no prospect of such a shortage.You could argue that nearly all our worlds problems are caused by too many men and women-----


Discuss.

Yep, I think overpopulation is a huge problem. I'm reading a book at the moment called, "Metaman". It's essentially about the way that 'mankind' and his associated effects on the world (buildings, transport networks etc.) are akin to a giant living organism, of which we as individuals are essentially just 'cells' performing particular tasks. One of the biggest problems for metaman to overcome in order to thrive is that of overpopulation as aside from being a problem in itself, it also speeds up the rate at which other significant problems (global warming, peak oil, etc.) are going to come about.

Throws up interesting ethical dilemas: Is it more 'moral' to have an 'opt out' form of contraception than it is to allow overpopulation to get to the stage where billions die of starvation. IE by default everyone is rendered unable to produce and you have to pass a parenting test, not have a criminal record, to be given a course of the antidote and even then be limited to 2 children max?

Bear 29-02-08 12:38 PM

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Only Bikers* should be allowed to have sex, thereby ending overpopulation, climate change AND congestion in one fell swoop...

*obviously bikers will have the choice of which models, Hollywood stars etc they get to have sex at, on, towards, or in the rare occasion with.

Ping 29-02-08 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Bear (Post 1433027)
Only Bikers* should be allowed to have sex, thereby ending overpopulation, climate change AND congestion in one fell swoop...

*obviously bikers will have the choice of which models, Hollywood stars etc they get to have sex at, on, towards, or in the rare occasion with.

And big beefy rugby players... and firemen...

the_lone_wolf 29-02-08 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Ping (Post 1433032)
And big beefy rugby players... and firemen...

and men who dress up as orks at the weekend?;)


although if you think about it, they never had any sex anyway...:p

missyburd 29-02-08 12:54 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ping (Post 1433032)
And big beefy rugby players... and firemen...

+1 :D

Ping 29-02-08 01:13 PM

Re: The women are taking over....
 
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Originally Posted by the_lone_wolf (Post 1433043)
and men who dress up as orks at the weekend?;)


although if you think about it, they never had any sex anyway...:p

Just big beefy rugby players, firemen and bikers thanks.


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