Prince Harry - down to earth genuine propper geezer or p.r. craving g.i. joseph?
 

sky news video report on harry in afghanistan

I personally think he's a genuinely nice guy with a standard mischievous streak. I've got mates who've dressed as osama bin laden to fancy dress parties and smoke weed and got upto a lot worse things in their younger years, but are now upstanding family/business people. Harry has done alot of things plenty of other young people have done... (except tw*ting a paparazzi outside a club, I don't personally know anyone who's done that before).

I think he was genuinely desperate to get out to the middle east and take an active role in the armed forces but I do think the reported *breach* of the "media blackout" was a bit of a timed PR stunt (seems a bit convenient for the headlines to read "Breaking news: prince harry serving in afghanistan" but the video imagery coming in was perfectly shot documentary footage and not leaked poor quality footage).

Just wondered what you all think of our 3rd in line tothe throne?

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i agree, i like the guy. is a bit of a party animal when he gets going like most young people and can't stop himself. not like he had much choice about being a royal!! but now he's showing a bit of maturity as well out in afghanistan, despite now having to come home as a result of the americans. almost another case of "friendly fire" isn't it?!

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was it the americans who broke the "blackout" ?

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as far as i know it was

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interesting, for some reason I'd assumed it was a european media organisation. Just watching skynews when CBS hand back over to Sky with the dubbing "for more upto date news and information visit CBSNews dot"... cut off. love it

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Apparently the BBC had an agreement that they could film him and as long as they kept it quiet they could then show what he'd been up to in April, but as per usual the Yanks messed it up.

I think he's an alright fellow but I'm not so sure he should have been sent out there at all. He might be looking over his shoulder for ever now. I think the Army could have just moved him elsewhere, mind you the helmet province must be massive.

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Came across as a very well balanced bloke from what was showed.

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Keep meaning to scrap with one of those... good on yer for anyone who has done :-D

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Aussies I think, not Yanks

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Correct, leaked originally by the Aussies but not picked up on until a Yank website made a big thing about it.

My view is he's trying to be as normal a person as he can, which is difficult given his heritage and family. He's willing to put his neck on the line, even if it means the MOD going to extraordinary lengths to create a news blackout, and has proved to be a decent bloke who likes a laugh, just as anyone else does.

Fair play to him, I wouldn't have minded more officers like him when I was in the mob - not that I can recall any particularly bad ones tbh. Only one problem with him...


























...he's a ginge :D

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Benefit scroungers the whole lot of 'em.

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yes but what you dont see is the Elite soldiers dressed down as privates that acompany him everywhere he goes... to put it plainly.. what do you think would happen if one of the royal family was killed in combat? . . . it would NEVER happen.. the guy is a farce imo

in the bbc.co.uk/news

"Prince Harry had been based in a former madrassa along with a Gurkha regiment." - i guess its nice to have the best as babysitters

The 23-year-old left on a flight on Friday evening amid concerns he would be a Taleban target if he stayed - well isnt he a lucky fellow.. maybe my friend who got shot in the eye, could of left ten weeks in because he felt like hed be a target..

Last year, a planned tour to Iraq had to be cancelled at the last minute because of fears about his and his colleagues' security. - yeah my friends decided to call off their whole tour of iraq.. one had a family birthday another had a trackday etc.. i believe that afghan in march is still pencel'd in to their 2008 calender though... they also think didnt know that getting shot at came in the job description ironicly just like harry

This whole thing is the biggest peice of bull since the diana incident, he is a royal not a soldier, he went straight into officers training.. missed the MANDATORY barb test.. may be he was too good for that... then gets taken out early because the MOD say hes not aloud to play with naughty boys anymore.. as he might scrape his knee..

then says this..
"I don't want to sit around Windsor, because I generally don't like England that much and it's nice to be away from all the press and the papers." - WTF???

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I thought he came across very well in the reports, just seemed normal and wanted to do his job.

I liked the bike where he swore and the other bit about not drinking booze. I also thought the fact he said he wanted to get out of england to get away from the media was quite an interesting comment to make to.

I used to think he was a bit of a pratt, but he looks like he's grown up a lot.

At the end of the day he's not doing a job thats any different to the other troops, so the risk etc is the same, I know he is a target because of who he is though. Good on him for wanting to go and not use his position to whimp out of it. Just a shame the media have messed it up for him.

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to be fair its more like he really wants to do the job.. but his status stops him and the MOD jumps when the fhit hits the shan, and drags him off.. i feel sorry for him more than anything.. apparently his brother is a navy lad now too.. it angers me that the country let them "play" soldiers.. because ive lost too many good honest friends who fought for thier country.. actually let me rephrase that.. who faught to clean up bush's sH!t of a mess. Who would of benefited from the same treat ment.. secondly.. why isnt his head shaved? a #2 is uniform isnt it?... maybe not for ginger nuts

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nah #2's not for officers, just not meant to touch the ears or the collar, but out in afgan they can grow their hair and a beard if they like. Increases respect from the locals who all have beards.
Also not shaving decreases the chance of cutting themselves and getting infected.

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ahh i see lol,

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Don't know about that, Helmand is a pretty dangerous place I'm led to believe. And all the babysitters in the world won't save you from an IED or blue on blue bomb dropping on your head.

Still a **** though!

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I must say the army took one hell of a risk there ... I assume it was done to try and raise the profile of the army that are serving out there in a war no one here wants/believes in and get new recruits etc, but imagine if he came back injured or dead!!! .... wow that was a big gamble some 'high up' made!! :shock:

As for Harry's own motives, it surely was to dispel any thoughts that he was soft just coz he was a Royal.

So I can see the rationale from both sides, but by chr1st it was a big gamble!! :shock:

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Sned Tony Blairs son and see how quick it ends !!

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so, has he returned home then or is he still out there?

Any service personnel on here - how would you feel if he was working with you? Would you feel even more compramised?

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I don't think sending our ex-prime minister's son would make the slightest bit of a difference, but if Gordie's kid was old enough....

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he landed back in the uk at about 11:45 today. While I was waiting for the roads to dry I put bbc news 24 on. They scrapped "Click" the technology show, as they wanted to have live images of harrys plane touching down and him walking off.

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Personally, I still haven't a clue what he's like, just because he's been to afghanistan and seems a sound bloke for the cameras, he could still be a child abusing satanist or an undercover scientologist for all we know. Can't see the point in forming an opinion on someone based on media coverage. Though his brother does seem a total monkey ;)

It was documentary footage, filmed for later use- but once the story got out there was no reason to save it.

Which is fine, but it's not really the same situation is it? He would have become a specific target at far greater risk than other soldiers- it's reasonable to assume that he'd become pretty much the biggest target in the country. That wouldn't just endanger him of course, it'd also endanger others in his unit for no real purpose. And if he was to be killed or captured,that'd hand a massive victory to the guerillas, again for no good reason. Very good reasons for not putting him out there in the first place, and for getting him out once it becomes public.

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true, so that would show me that the MOD have no consideration for our lads out there by sending a royal bomb me neon symbol lol,.. but say to every one "shhhhh" harry is in balmoral wink wink - nudge nudge ;)

"oh hes in afghan? how the devil did he get there? i guess we will bring him home then" lol,

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Just depends how well known it is that he's there, doesn't it? It's not a risk as long as they don't know he's there, or where to find him- just like Prince Andrew in the Falklands wasn't an operational risk because it wasn't realistic to specifically target him.

You can't have it both ways though, you can't complain that they sent him out then complain that they bring him back.

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+1


Now in the media that he's coming home, so back to the status quo really, except they're all freezing, which should make life a little easier.