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ThEGr33k 13-07-08 11:51 PM

New chain and Sprockets.
 
Man the costs never end!

Well ive written up a list of good bits which was a DID 525ZVM 106link X2-link... better than standard X-type apparently. That £105 ($210) and the sprockets (both renthal) are £50 ($100)... £160 total inc delivery. A fair amount!

My chain atm is needing adjusting ALL the time http://www.apriliaforum.com/forums/i...s/confused.gif

I think the only thing making it even usable is the scottoiler. http://www.apriliaforum.com/forums/i...es/burnout.gif

Anyway what do you think? Should I spend a load on this or go for something else?

http://www.stealthproducts.co.uk/products/sprocket.php

Im thinking of ringing these to see what the craic is... £80 for a 12000 miles guaranteed X-ring chain aint bad at all! Especially if I can pick it up as Sheffield is just down the road.

Cheers for any feedback. http://www.apriliaforum.com/forums/i...lies/smile.gif

Nick



Baph 14-07-08 07:17 AM

Re: New chain and Sprockets...
 
Standard x-ring chain & sprockets inc fitting for me is £126. The kit on the website is £80.

Regular maintenance (or a scottoiler) on a standard chain will give 12-15k miles on an SV happily, so the gurantee is pretty much pointless IMO.

I do need to get a compressor with airgun, and a chain rivetter though at some point, save on the fitting costs.

krhall 14-07-08 07:26 AM

Re: New chain and Sprockets...
 
Oh so you can't do the chain yourself without the rivetter?

St0rmer66 14-07-08 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by krhall (Post 1567433)
Oh so you can't do the chain yourself without the rivetter?

If you do a lot of miles then it might be worth investing in a rivet tool. It would save in the long run. Or maybe just borrow someone elses (my Dad just does mine for me).

Also I don't think he'll get 12k miles out of a chain on a 1000cc V-Twin :p .

Baph 14-07-08 07:54 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by krhall (Post 1567433)
Oh so you can't do the chain yourself without the rivetter?

Nope, I have one for the kids push bikes, just haven't got a motorbike one yet.

£50 for the tool, and it would save me (given the prices so far in this thread) £30 every time I changed the chain. However, the front sprocket is generally a beggar to get off, so may need a compressor & impact gun, which are expensive. :(

21QUEST 14-07-08 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Baph (Post 1567449)
Nope, I have one for the kids push bikes, just haven't got a motorbike one yet.

£50 for the tool, and it would save me (given the prices so far in this thread) £30 every time I changed the chain. However, the front sprocket is generally a beggar to get off, so may need a compressor & impact gun, which are expensive. :(

Baph, a 12V Impact Wrench......cheap as chips ;)

Mine cost me less than £15 :)


Ben

Baph 14-07-08 09:02 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 21QUEST (Post 1567467)
Baph, a 12V Impact Wrench......cheap as chips ;)

Mine cost me less than £15 :)

Just been shopping for battery powered impact wrenches actually (mainly for another job, but it'll do)... just purchased a nice DeWalt 36v one. T'wasn't cheap by any stretch of the imagination, but it also wasn't me paying. :D

Tool p*rn as I know a few on the .Org like that sort of thing...

http://www.toolbarn.com/images/dewalt/dc800kl.jpg
Still want a 16 CFM compressor though...

21QUEST 14-07-08 09:07 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Baph (Post 1567477)
Just been shopping for battery powered impact wrenches actually (mainly for another job, but it'll do)... just purchased a nice DeWalt 36v one. T'wasn't cheap by any stretch of the imagination, but it also wasn't me paying. :D

Tool p*rn as I know a few on the .Org like that sort of thing...

http://www.toolbarn.com/images/dewalt/dc800kl.jpg
Still want a 16 CFM compressor though...

I can see that not being cheap..... :cool: though.

I was talkig about 12V one which You run straight of any 12V battery/cig lighter socket.


Ben

Baph 14-07-08 09:12 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 21QUEST (Post 1567480)
I was talkig about 12V one which You run straight of any 12V battery/cig lighter socket.

Yea, they don't quite cut the mustard when you're helping to build/strip armed trucks though. :thumbsup:

21QUEST 14-07-08 09:13 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Baph (Post 1567486)
Yea, they don't quite cut the mustard when you're helping to build/strip armed trucks though. :thumbsup:

What's the Max Torque of that ?


Ben

Baph 14-07-08 09:14 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 21QUEST (Post 1567489)
What's the Max Torque of that ?

325 ft-lbs for the DeWalt wrench. :D

Anything that won't move with that torque, can be cut off. :lol:

21QUEST 14-07-08 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Baph (Post 1567490)
325 ft-lbs for the DeWalt wrench. :D

Anything that won't move with that torque, can be cut off. :lol:

Sounds plenty although my 12V one is 210Nm Max...don't know what that equates to in ft-lbs mind.

I want to ask how much but not sure I want to know :lol:


Ben

Baph 14-07-08 09:25 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 21QUEST (Post 1567497)
Sounds plenty although my 12V one is 210Nm Max...don't know what that equates to in ft-lbs mind.

I want to ask how much but not sure I want to know :lol:

325 ft-lbs is 439Nm give or take (1.35Nm/ft-lb).

£300 + P&P.

It's handy having an uncle like mine that buys serious tools & doesn't mind them growing legs for a while. :)

21QUEST 14-07-08 09:28 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Baph (Post 1567502)
325 ft-lbs is 439Nm give or take (1.35Nm/ft-lb).

£300 + P&P.

It's handy having an uncle like mine that buys serious tools & doesn't mind them growing legs for a while. :)


Haha just looked up conversion and went "fargin heck...." :eek: :mrgreen:


Ben

yorkie_chris 14-07-08 12:49 PM

Re: New chain and Sprockets.
 
£160. Are they on drugs?

www.bandcexpress.co.uk

ThEGr33k 14-07-08 01:20 PM

Re: New chain and Sprockets.
 
£160 is for the best chain money can buy (apparently)...

What do you think to getting the stealth product I linked to? Any reason I shouldn't?

Bah hope there arnt any reasons I shouldnt. Ive just ordered one. I guess for £80 I cant go toooo far wrong, oh and a 12000 miles guarantee (12 months) Should last me a year. :D It is an X-ring.

http://www.stealthproducts.co.uk/products/sprocket.php Ill let you know if its some good, then you can all join the saving, as they are VERY cheap :S

Xan173 21-08-08 09:26 AM

Re: New chain and Sprockets.
 
Ever heard the term "mechanical sympathy"?

ThEGr33k 21-08-08 10:52 AM

Re: New chain and Sprockets.
 
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Originally Posted by Xan173 (Post 1601596)
Ever heard the term "mechanical sympathy"?


Yes, but im not sure what context you mean it... Explain?

Xan173 21-08-08 11:07 AM

Re: New chain and Sprockets.
 
Why do you think your chain needs adjusting a lot? What are the possible causes of that symptom?

ThEGr33k 21-08-08 11:15 AM

Re: New chain and Sprockets.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Xan173 (Post 1601754)
Why do you think your chain needs adjusting a lot? What are the possible causes of that symptom?

Lots of millage, 70lb-ft of torque. It only got bad on the adjustment in the last 2K of its life :(. It needed adjusting liturally after 100 miles trip... I did manage nearly 16K out of the chain which isnt too bad. I think most people say past 15K and your are doing well. Your new bike will be the same ill guess when you get to the 15K mile mark.

In the first 2000 miles of this new chain no adjustment needed as yet. :D Though It is slackening a little... so might need a little nip soon. :rolleyes:


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