TheGr33ks Falco Thread
 

Its alright ........its safe on a gsxr600.......we're not talking Falco/Barge type bikes here ;)

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If this is a joke I apologise for my post... Maybe.

Oh I see... I guess RSV's are also barge type bikes?

Have you ever seen a Falco?

My bike is similar to an RSV with the same measurments but supporting a different frame and swing arm I.E. They look different but do things exactly the same (Plus shocker which is crap, will be changed) everything else is the same (engine, though mine has 2 into 2, brakes forks electronics et etc.). Guess thats crap. :smt118

I have been to the edge of my tire so I know what its like. :smt065

One other thing, ive pushed it a little too far and had to pick it up as I felt the back tire falling off the edge. That was brown trouser time. just enjoy the corners imo.

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Well its not an RSVR if it has a different frame is it... if it was an RSVR it would be EXACTLY the same and called an RSVR and not called a FALCO wouldnt it... :rolleyes:

Not being funny or owt, but you need to take a chill pill I'm pretty sure you were having your leg pulled.. and not before time either I should add ;):D

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Aye I said at the front of the post if it was a joke... It's just there were no ha ha, he he, or :) :p :cool: in his post so it felt to me "what do you know!?".

No the frame isnt the "same frame" but like I said its got the same dimensions etc. So its practically the same. I think they wanted the Falco to look nicer in its semi naked state and the RSV frame is a munter once its got its cloths off.

Anyway. Guess none of it matters. :cool: Sorry.

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hahahaha.Well done Fiz.Have been waiting for someone to tell him.

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Which bit :p

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:smt043

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Ak3zVvKmtoE&NR=1

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I cant watch that (at work)... What is it?

No doubt you are ripping me.

You know what I like about you muffles?

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I daredn't ask! :p

It's one of the Harry Enfield & Chums Scousers...if you've never seen it it won't make sense (from what I've said) but if you have - you must know what I mean! :D

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last bit mate.lol

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Bah you were ment to say "what do you like"! To that I reply "Nothing" :p

Git. I so cant wait to meet you and burry... I, I, I, mean talk to you. :cool:

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Thought so just checking. :p

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Wasn't gonna fall for that one ;) I shall bring my stab-vest and keep you at arm's length then :p - you're in the military!

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I know :(

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Why I aut to!!! :p Im very happy with it. :D I think the TL to Suzuki is a Falco wanna be... It isnt as dangerous and faster/easier to ride.

I felt slighted thats why I bit. It didnt sound like G was having a laugh, read a little like a Adult talking to a child saying "your opinion doesnt count". :(

Anyways whatever, I know what my bike can do.

Aye but the SV's tyre is MEGA pinched... Saying that the 600's tyres are also pinched with their little 5.5" rims and 180 section tyres. :(



Cart how far off the edge are you on the front?

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You have resigned though, haven't you? Crikey if they were making me work at that time I'd resign too! :D

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Im still at work now... Be finishing soon. :D One more Night shift yay. That e'll make it a nice 72 hour week with no overtime. :(

I have put my notice in yes. 16 months notice. :smt009

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Plastic knifes and guns in Barnsley so nothing really to worry about...

As already mentioned, no they are completely different and have the same similarites between a TL1000S and an SV650S. Technically it is not the same engine, different cylinders and hugely different internals (I have seen thsi with my own eyes). Different frames, the RSV's is far superior, and suspension let alone characteristics.

No offence to you 'TheGr33k', I agree that the Falco is an excellent bike for the road but fast road riding is its down fall as it is well known and documented to not offer much feed back to the rider. It handles well but it is vague, compare it to a bike like the Firestorm, RSV, 999, 04 onwards Fireblades and R1's etc and you will notice.

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Yeah it was a little joke. i know you love the falco, just joining in the neio digging :lol::smt052 sorry the post went 3 pages off topic because of it, love you really :(

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I'd like to claim to being part of that party too! It's like shooting fish in a barrel.....! :p

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I often wonder that???

I'm pretty much on the edge front and rear on one side, yet I hang my toes off the edge of the peg so that my toe will touch down way before the peg, yet it never has.

I'm beginning to think I would loose the front or back way before the pegs touch down.

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The Engine is the same as the 2000-2001 small valve RSV engine. 02 they changed some of the internals but not greatly Just bigger intake valves. 04-06 the engine went to single spark plug per cylinder and 07+ they went for 33mm Exhaust valves and they made it rev more through making the drive train more hardy and adding titanium bits for more strength and less weight. The Bore and stroke is the same accross the whole range as is compression (though the 04+ may have more). The Falco was given twin Exhausts to give it more mid range which causes the top to go down by a couple of BHP... but who wants peaky power on a twin?

Read towards the bottom of this. http://www.apriliaforum.com/forums/s...ead.php?t=2585

The Forks are the same USD Showa as the RSV 00-03. Like I said the dimensions of the frame is the same, the swinging arm while looking different places the rear wheel in the exact same place hence the easy swap to an RSV swinger. The Brakes are the same. The only place the Falco was let down was its poor choice fo rear shock. The wheels are the same brembo units as fitted to all RSV's (except R's 00-03/factory 04-06) upto 06.

As for vagueness yes standard they are a little, front can push wide when on the power though this mostly due to the rear shock and terrable settings on the suspension out of the factory. Play with settings lower the forks through the clamps (so there is about 25mm showind at the top) and reduce rebound dampening it feels more solid then ever. I can easily accelerate through an entire corner hard without it feeling out of place or squirming at all. Once I get a good rear shock I expect it will be Unreal if the increase in feel from the rear is as good as people say.

There are a lot of people track these bikes (after new rear shock and Oz wheels) and they prefer them to the RSV's.

Cheers for reading... Sorry this thread is so de-railed. :rolleyes:

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Don't worry... Ill let you off... this time :p

Sorry for the reply it was a bit bitchy. I just got the wrong end of the stick. :( I think some people do think what you said... but they (probably) don't know much about them...

All's well.

You have an SV? Its not fair if you do... I cant really take the mick as I have one and its the SV forums. :rolleyes: Bah. :D

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Nope, I now have a Honda lol.......so feel free to take the **** :D

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Which one?

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600rr :dwarf:

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Not much to be said... Except its clearly got too many cylinder in the wrong configuration. What else can I say... Half the bloody forum has them :p

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Now that i know is manufacturer BS, a single can will boost the mid range not a twin can set up. Now that is a racing/tuning proven fact with V-twins!!!

Their are more differences than what you said, many of the engine internals are different (proof - different part numbers) and as for the forks yes they are the same but only on the outside. I have helped run an RSV race bike and a Falco engine was bought for spare parts by mistake.

I'm not hear to slag off the Falco, I think and know it is an excellent bike for real road riding, i'm just trying to state the facts, pass on my knowledge/experiences and not let people get misguided as to what is what. There is already to much BS coming from the motorcycle manufacturers, dealers and press now a days to the point that it is getting as bad as the cars!

TheGr33ks Falco Thread
 

Split off from the other tyres and grip thread, discuss the falco here...

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Gr33k has a falco?! Since when?!

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HAHA now it looks like I've started a bitchy thread :(

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I'm quite happy to delete the whole thread...

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what's a falco?

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Identical to an Apppppprilia RSVR :-# :dwarf:

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could you ban the word "falco" too? ;)

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Bah! No fair!

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He is in the RAF, so no not really ;)

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now is that digging at me, or joining me in takng the P out of the Falco compared to IL4's LOL .

I think he know ws mean it in a nice friendly kind of way.

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Haha, didn't expect to see this thread all on its own! Does this mean the Falco-bashing is being approved of? :shock:

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PMSL at this thread!

A guy I know has a Falco and he wont hear a bad word said against it either and that its probably the best all-rounder money can buy blah blah blah - something to be said about Falco owners?? They are great bikes from what I gather - fuggly though :p