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Tomtoms 23-07-08 01:52 PM

Scottoiler
 
only had my SV650s since saturday and its got a scottoiler on it.

the only thing is i cant seem to find the resevoir! how often do they need filling up? ie, how many miles does a full resevoir last? im guessing it only takes special (expensive) scottoil only.....

could anyone upload a picture as i only sort of know what it looks like!

Grinch 23-07-08 01:53 PM

Re: Scottoiler
 
Well people tend to hide them behind the seat triangles on the left side below the riders seat, they need filling up when there get low, so your need to look and check.

Tomtoms 23-07-08 01:55 PM

Re: Scottoiler
 
ok. does that mean taking the riders seat off?

is that just a few bolts?

fizzwheel 23-07-08 01:55 PM

Re: Scottoiler
 
Resevoir will probably be in either of these two places

1. Under the rear pillion seat
2. Under the black infill panel under the riders seat on the gear change side of your bike.

My resevoir normally lasts about 1000 or so miles. I just check it once a week or prior to a long ride. But it will depend on the flow rate and where the resevoir is mounted it not an exact science. Check it regularly until you get a feel for milleage and flow rate.

Have a look at the scotoiler website for images, specifically here

http://www.scottoiler.com/pc/Scottoi...ersal_Kit.html

hovis 23-07-08 01:57 PM

Re: Scottoiler
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tomtoms (Post 1576440)
ok. does that mean taking the riders seat off?

?

no, just the left hand side panel

1 allen key, and maybe a clipy type thingy

Luckypants 23-07-08 02:00 PM

Re: Scottoiler
 
The places suggested are the most likely spots, but can you not just follow the delivery tubing back the the reservoir?

Tomtoms 23-07-08 02:02 PM

Re: Scottoiler
 
well its deffinately not under the pillion seat. so will have a look under the panel when i get home.

yeah i guessed it would be different on every bike due to the set up etc.

is it specific scott oil that needs to go in?

jambo 23-07-08 02:02 PM

Re: Scottoiler
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tomtoms (Post 1576434)
only had my SV650s since saturday and its got a scottoiler on it.

the only thing is i cant seem to find the resevoir! how often do they need filling up? ie, how many miles does a full resevoir last? im guessing it only takes special (expensive) scottoil only.....

could anyone upload a picture as i only sort of know what it looks like!

Follow the clear tube up and take off anything that gets in the way, but it's worth having a look round the area by the pillion seat as you don't need tools to get in there!

You can run it on scottoil, it's not expensive by any stretch of the imagination. I usually use engine oil (often used engine oil) as I have tons of that left over from services;)

Jambo

Tomtoms 23-07-08 02:03 PM

Re: Scottoiler
 
the tube dissapears into mid air! (i have only had a quick look to be honest) but cant seem to follow it easily!

fizzwheel 23-07-08 02:04 PM

Re: Scottoiler
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tomtoms (Post 1576448)
is it specific scott oil that needs to go in?

Not necessarily, but I choose to use the genuine stuff as its water soluable and if it does fling to much over the bike its easy to remove.

Other people use old engine oil or gear oil etc etc, have a search about as this has come up a few times.

It may be tucked in behind the rear plastics where the subframe is rather than in the pillion seat storage area. So that might be worth a poke around.

Stu 23-07-08 02:13 PM

Re: Scottoiler
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jambo (Post 1576449)
I usually use engine oil (often used engine oil) as I have tons of that left over from services;)

Jambo

+1 at least I don't :cry: so much when I leave it on prime by accident & use up a whole reservoir in 30 miles :lol:

pic of it disappearing into mid air please :D

Pic of reservoir below

http://i4.ebayimg.com/03/i/000/fb/d5/b893_1.JPG

Stu 23-07-08 02:14 PM

Re: Scottoiler
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fizzwheel (Post 1576454)
Not necessarily, but I choose to use the genuine stuff as its water soluable and if it does fling to much over the bike its easy to remove.

How can oil be water soluble? :confused:

hovis 23-07-08 02:17 PM

Re: Scottoiler
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tomtoms (Post 1576450)
the tube dissapears into mid air! (i have only had a quick look to be honest) but cant seem to follow it easily!

are you sure you have one?

:o

Viney 23-07-08 02:23 PM

Re: Scottoiler
 
Possibly the actual unit has been removed and the only thing left is the tubing.

Can you see oil in the tubing (Red or blue, or if engine oil, black)

And afaik, scottoil is a synthetic lubricant and not an oil (probably worng but there you go) and therefore can be water soliuble

Ooo, you could also have a tourning kit, therefore the resivoiur will be monted behind the numberplate.

Ceri JC 23-07-08 02:32 PM

Re: Scottoiler
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Viney (Post 1576492)

Ooo, you could also have a tourning kit, therefore the resivoiur will be monted behind the numberplate.

...although not on pointies. Both myself and The Mass have suffered snapped number plate hangers when doing this (admittedly in both cases we'd done about 20K with them in place before they failed). Scottoiler now advice against this for pointies (although they hadn't when we fitted them).

Tomtoms 23-07-08 02:52 PM

Re: Scottoiler
 
yeah im sure i have one! had the engine running for a bit in the garage and there was a tiny drop of oil from the oiler after a few mins. and its got a bright yellow sticker on the swing arm! :cool: how nice looking....:-#

im guessing the resevoir is under on of the panels. as the tube seems to be routed somewhere around there. i just loose it with my eye when following it, ill follow it up with my hand later on...

Viney 23-07-08 02:57 PM

Re: Scottoiler
 
You should be able to see the thing through the slats in the pannel. Its only a 4mm allen key to take it off/swing it out of the way.

CJ, i know about the pointies, but as he has the correct shape one in his avatar... ;)

Ceri JC 23-07-08 03:58 PM

Re: Scottoiler
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Viney (Post 1576541)
CJ, i know about the pointies, but as he has a hideous jelly mould shaped one in his avatar... ;)

Whoops, I overlooked that. Fire away, stick a touring sized resevoir on it. :D

Tomtoms 24-07-08 07:00 AM

Re: Scottoiler
 
'correct' shape! haha

i found it under the pillion seat (dont know how i missed it!!) its in a pretty tight gap! need to work out how to get in there.

on filling the resevoir, does it come out of the bike, or do you fill it while its attached.

(sorry for almost obvious questions, dont want to mess up the oiller and/or spill oil all over the bike!!)

fizzwheel 24-07-08 07:51 AM

Re: Scottoiler
 
You fill it whilst its attatched to the bike.

If you buy a bottle of the genuine scotoil it comes with a clear plastic tube that you can use to fill the scotoiler with. Theres a little black plug with a clear bit of pipe attatched to it on the resevoir pull that off and then the oil goes in through the small hole that the plug covers.

Luckypants 24-07-08 09:15 AM

Re: Scottoiler
 
Does it look like this? This is a photo of a Scottoiler under the left rear side panel of a curvy.

http://forums.sv650.org/attachment.p...5&d=1209576615

If so, the black plug Fizz mentions can clearly be seen at the top of the oiler, with the white bit on top. Pull that off, fill the oiler using the Scottoil filler pipe that comes with the bottle of Scottoil and bob's your uncle.

Tomtoms 24-07-08 09:22 AM

Re: Scottoiler
 
that looks pretty much spot on! wicked! thanks for all the info.

Ill have a go filling it up next week.

21QUEST 24-07-08 09:25 AM

Re: Scottoiler
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Luckypants (Post 1576446)
The places suggested are the most likely spots, but can you not just follow the delivery tubing back the the reservoir?

As the man said ;)


Ben

TheStudent 24-07-08 09:31 AM

Re: Scottoiler
 
I ride my bike once or twice a week, maybe 50miles each time. I oil my chain when it's hot from riding, probably once every month to be honest. I think most of the oil i put on ends up on either the swing arm or the rear wheel making the back of the bike look pretty black and messy. Am i just putting too much on, or is it crap oil? Personally I would like it all to look pristine clean like some bikes which look like they have no oil on them. Would a Scottoiler be good for me?

Thanks, Tom.

Tomtoms 24-07-08 09:33 AM

Re: Scottoiler
 
The scottoiler makes the odd 'splash' mark on the swing arm and a bit on the frame. but its so little it just wipes straight off!

might be worth the investment...

Luckypants 24-07-08 09:42 AM

Re: Scottoiler
 
The oil gets thrown off and is referred to as 'fling', it has to go somewhere right? The amount of fling depends on the flow rate, which you can set yourself. If you use a high flow, then obviously you get more oil flying about. The point of a scottoiler is constant lubrication, so a low flow is fine if the chain is well lubed from the start. This means you won't get much fling either. Little and often lubrication (Scottoiler principle) is better than a lot periodically (manual lubrication). I recently went 3500 odd miles without cleaning the bike (was touring) and although the swing arm and wheel were dirty, they were not oily in as much it looked like there was excess oil.

21QUEST 24-07-08 09:44 AM

Re: Scottoiler
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheStudent (Post 1577126)
I ride my bike once or twice a week, maybe 50miles each time. I oil my chain when it's hot from riding, probably once every month to be honest. I think most of the oil i put on ends up on either the swing arm or the rear wheel making the back of the bike look pretty black and messy. Am i just putting too much on, or is it crap oil? Personally I would like it all to look pristine clean like some bikes which look like they have no oil on them. Would a Scottoiler be good for me?
Thanks, Tom.

No ;)

I use a paint brush and cheap engine oil. It does make a bit of a mess but I'm more bothered about chain lasting so doesn't bother me much.
It wouldn't make so much of a mess if I was a bit more careful with application and wiped off the excess with a rag but again, can't be a$red most times lol.

I'll be putting a Scottoiler I have sitting around mind, on the bike I'm putting back together

With the amount of miles you do, you should be able to keep wheel/swinging arm fairly clean with a good non-fling chain lube. Wipe the excess from side-plates with a rag after lubing.



Ben


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