750 front
 

i seem to recall somebody on here saying to me a long time ago about how to get the steering lock working on my 2000 w reg curvy sv fully faired.

i have the full srad 750 front fitted.

i cant find the post or remember what was said to me.

i took the side panels off last night and found that on the bottom yoke there were two nobly stop bits whaich had screws in.

what are the purpose of having them screws in and are they needed?

i removed the screws from these bits and all i can say is flippin heck i can turn my handle bars.

i need to get my steering lock working but dont know what i have to do, is it just a case of filling the nobbly bits down to increase the turn or am i wrong?

any help much appreciated

Re: 750 front
 

Northwind should be along to e-lighten you to all the information you need, though I remember depending on the yokes you have it will depend on whether you can get this working. So it might help if you put the details of the bike the yokes came off.

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i have no ideas what bike it came off as i bought the bike with the front fitted. i actually have no clue all i know is that the front is off the gsxr 750 however i think there is a possibility that the top yoke is standard however i am not entirly sure

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Pictures may be the way forwards here then. The USD GSXR 750 forks are significantly wider where the yokes clamp onto them than normal SV forks. There are a few yokes you can use to fit and it depends on the year of the forks. A few people on here are pretty well clued up on the years though so some pictures of the yokes, forks, and brakes will tell people what you have.

Jambo

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ok im going to take some pictures now and il upload them in 5 mins

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ok heres some pictures of the front end. hopefully this helps my problem

http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/9...0269ze3.th.jpg

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Hmm, sounds like those screws might have been fitted to the lock stops by the previous owner to restrict the steering lock? Maybe the last owner was worried about the bars hitting the tank or fairing. SRAD stops are solid, normally. If you've got a picture of what's going on in there that'd be handy...

It should be dead simple. SRAD yokes are very similir to SV ones, so the lock stops work perfectly and the ignition very nearly does. There's 2 ways to make the ignition work, either machine out the "bolt hole" in the frame slightly (I used a dremel, and we're talking about 2mm of material at most) or alternatively grind down the "bolt" of the lock a bit, to get the same effect. I reckon you could also oval the bolt holes and rotate the lock mechanism slightly but I've never actually seen it done.

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heres some more

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im sorry if the pictures aren't very good.

http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/5...0274su4.th.jpg

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You shouldn't have a problem with SRAD yokes and the steering lock, it all alligns up perfectly. You either have non-SRAD yokes or by the sounds of it you have modified yokes, have you got a picture of these screws you are on about?

Should look like this standard...

http://i1.ebayimg.com/04/i/000/fd/31/6db0_1.JPG

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ok the bottom yoke is the same as the picture however my top yoke looks slightly different from the above. the screws that i took out of the stops on the bottom yoke had a head size of 5mm and screwed into the stops.

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il take a pic of the screws when i get back later. technically there shouldnt be an issue with the steering lock if the standard yokes or the srad ones are used. so all i can think is maybe to change the yokes

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Looks the same top yoke to me, you've just got the SV650 steering stem in yours and not a SRAD one.

Is the bottom yoke like the picture i posted now or does it have these screws in? I think the screws are restricting you steering, hence why the steering lock doesn't work. Could really do with a pic mate to help you out.

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Correct.

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right mate the bottom yoke is the same as pictured. it had the screws in but i took them out which has given me more steering however when the key is turned to the lock position it is like it wants to go just not quite.

if it helps il strip the front off again when i get back later and take a load of pictures of the inside

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Ahh... now this is quite common with SRAD front end swaps that retain the SV650 steering stem. Basically when the steering stem was removed from the SV yokes it had more metal brazed/welded on to it, this is later milled down to the correct size for the SRAD bottom yoke (SV steering stem is smaller than SRAD). It appears that your stem has not been correctly milled down centrally.

There are a few options...

1) Fit a SRAD steering stem and use the Twin Works Factory bearing.

2) Re-braze up the SV steering stem and then re-mill correctly.

3) Alter the steering lock pin.

To do three all you need to is remove the steering barrel, dab a bit of paint on the steering lock pin itself and refit the barrel. Attempt to lock the steering and the paint will leave a mark on the frame showing you how far it is out, usually with this error it is only 1mm or 2mm. Simply file down the steering lock pin to fit, don't file down to much as the steering lock will become useless.

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None of the 3 SRAD swaps I've been involved with had the parking lock work without slight modification to either lock or frame :???: And if you surf around, you'll find plenty of other folks that say the same.

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ah brilliant i will take the front end off now and i will take some pics as i go along. i am going to try number 3 first to see how far it is out.

thanks

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Yet again I'm amazed by the knowledge of the .org - most bloody impressive!

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Guys we are making his more complicated than it needs to be :D .

As Northy has said, all that needs doing is to modifly slightly the hole in the frame or the pin in the lock or indeed the lock stops on the bottom yoke(filing down slightly in the vertical plane.)

By eyeballing/looking at the section where the hole is in the frame, you should be able to see exactly how the pin is missing the hole in frame. If it's vertical axis, a spacer between the top yoke and the adjuster nut should sort that out ie will raise top yoke slightly so pin goes in hole.

If it's in the horizontal axis, then the mod to frame hole/pin/lock stops should sort that out. Personally, I'd probably be more inclined to mod the hole in frame.




Ben

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Ths is correct.

The reason it doesn't quite work(though it is very close) is because of slight difference in in how far the steering can be turned to the side. This can be acheived simply by moving the ugs on the frame. So the lock stops on the bottom yoke could be in exactly the same place but you still a difference in turning circle.

Anyone ever compared the bottom yoke of the faired and unfaired (talking Curvy)?.....know what the main difference is ;)



Ben

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cheers for the advice guys, i spent a couple of hours last night and once you take the ignition barrel out it all becomes obvious, all i had to do to mine was to fit a couple of washers to drop the height down a couple of mm and it workes perfect.

if only you could send beers over the forum

cheers guys !

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Glad you worked our exactly what was needed :)


Just one more thing to add. Make sure the I.D of the washers are large enough to go over the thread showing above the adjuster nut ;) .

You need to be absolutely sure on that as if it just slightly under, it may look like they are sitting on the raised bit of the adjuster nut(as they should be) but in reality are not......this will effectively mean the top yoke wil be floating above the adjuter nut rather than do job of holding adjuster nut down.



Ben

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Err... hello, that was option number three and obviously the best solution.

I have fitted countless SRAD front ends onto Curvy SV's, I always use the SRAD steering stem and TWF bearing route and I have never had any allignment issues (whether vertically or horizontally). They all bolted up and fitted as if they were made for the SV, the only time I have experienced an allignment problem is when people use the SV steering stem.