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Brettus 19-11-08 02:35 PM

Wheelie School, anyone done it?
 
http://www.iwanttowheelie.co.uk/index.html
Looks interesting, thinking about having a bash next summer, £5/week between now and then would cover it. just wondered if anyone had done it and thought it was good or pointless etc?

Any opinions?

_Stretchie_ 19-11-08 02:44 PM

Re: Wheelie School, anyone done it?
 
Uh oh.. You've may have just opened yourself up for a bit of grief there matey boy
; )

You'll learn ; )

Always nice to be able to do them though(I imagine). I could only do a couple of inches of the ground then crap myself.

Same old answer from me, if in moderation and in the right place then crack on son.

It's always nice to see a well done wheelie I don't care what the others say. Especially a long one through a gear or two, just not two up overtaking cars on a roundabout while getting your knee down


P.S. Buy some spare head bearings

martianskippy 19-11-08 02:49 PM

Re: Wheelie School, anyone done it?
 
There's a review of this school in the last Ride magazine. They reckon it's pretty good though the reviewer claims to have been the only person in the groop not to have wheelied it on the day ;-)

Dangerous Dave 19-11-08 03:25 PM

Re: Wheelie School, anyone done it?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Brettus (Post 1690396)
Any opinions?

With a torquey V-twin you won't need a school to teach you how to get it up, throttle and rear brake control will come with experience.

plowsie 19-11-08 03:45 PM

Re: Wheelie School, anyone done it?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dangerous Dave (Post 1690457)
With a torquey V-twin you won't need a school to teach you how to get it up, throttle and rear brake control will come with experience.

+1.

Brettus 19-11-08 03:50 PM

Re: Wheelie School, anyone done it?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by _Stretchie_ (Post 1690413)
Uh oh.. You've may have just opened yourself up for a bit of grief there matey boy
; )

Yeah I guessed that might be the case, I'm not advocating it really just wondered what people thought of the course approach.

Quote:

Originally Posted by martianskippy (Post 1690416)
There's a review of this school in the last Ride magazine. They reckon it's pretty good though the reviewer claims to have been the only person in the groop not to have wheelied it on the day ;-)

Yep, where I saw it too heh, sounded interesting so was looking it up.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dangerous Dave (Post 1690457)
With a torquey V-twin you won't need a school to teach you how to get it up, throttle and rear brake control will come with experience.

True enough, my skill isn't that great, I'm always tempted to try but don't wanna bin the thing, maybe when I've got some crash bungs I'd take the fairings off and give it a try. too scared of binning it on my first try heh.

Dangerous Dave 19-11-08 03:52 PM

Re: Wheelie School, anyone done it?
 
Just keep them low to begin with, control the height with the rear brake at first and you will soon learn how to control them on the throttle.

G 19-11-08 04:00 PM

Re: Wheelie School, anyone done it?
 
I wish I could do it :( one day maybe

454697819 20-11-08 01:52 PM

Re: Wheelie School, anyone done it?
 
an extra 50 bhp makes them easier...

A bit too easy....

Nobbylad 20-11-08 02:04 PM

Re: Wheelie School, anyone done it?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dangerous Dave (Post 1690457)
With a torquey V-twin you won't need a school to teach you how to get it up, throttle and rear brake control will come with experience.

Surely it's better to try at a school that has bikes with the anti-flip bits on the back so you don't bin your bike/your self?

I'd love to be able to wheelie my SV (used to wheelie my 100cc all the time when I was a lot younger) but too scared of flipping the SV etc.

http://www.thewheelieschool.co.uk/index.htm

Dangerous Dave 20-11-08 02:29 PM

Re: Wheelie School, anyone done it?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nobbylad (Post 1691356)
Surely it's better to try at a school that has bikes with the anti-flip bits on the back so you don't bin your bike/your self?

That is just a gimmick, whacking the throttle to full open so you can flip the bike is not the way to do a wheelie!

Nobbylad 20-11-08 02:35 PM

Re: Wheelie School, anyone done it?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dangerous Dave (Post 1691377)
That is just a gimmick, whacking the throttle to full open so you can flip the bike is not the way to do a wheelie!

It is/was on a 100cc :rolleyes:

rowdy 20-11-08 02:38 PM

Re: Wheelie School, anyone done it?
 
To be honest you will have to be pretty agressive with the throttle to flip an sv, especially in 2nd gear, although I nearly flipped mine the other day when I thought I was in 2nd but was actually in 1st gear, doh.

G 20-11-08 02:49 PM

Re: Wheelie School, anyone done it?
 
I dont think I ever got the front wheel up on the sv accelerating as hard as possible, the only time may have been on the A54 where theres a hump you can get a 1.2 clio airbourne on.

On the 600rr I have lifted the front on bumpy surfaces when accelerating but never really intentionally, tried the from a standstill method once and if felt completely unnatural.

EDIT: I would struggle to justify £175 for the school as its nearly two trackdays. Plus on an 1100 I imagin it to be relatively easy to lift the front end on power so you dont need to use the technique so much.

Davido 20-11-08 08:35 PM

Re: Wheelie School, anyone done it?
 
**** a wheelie school, come down to our place for a weekend and we'll help you out.

The SV is a great bike to learn on as the engine brake means its very difficult to flip, and you'll learn to get it up to balance point quick because you run out of revs very quickly.

hovis 20-11-08 08:40 PM

Re: Wheelie School, anyone done it?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 454697819 (Post 1691340)
an extra 50 bhp makes them easier...

A bit too easy....

but an extra 100 bhp does not

i used to love wheeling the sv........ but im scared of fliping the blade:(

Stig 20-11-08 08:46 PM

Re: Wheelie School, anyone done it?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by _Stretchie_ (Post 1690413)
P.S. Buy some spare head bearings

Not a requirement if you know how to land them properly.

Stig 20-11-08 09:19 PM

Re: Wheelie School, anyone done it?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Davido (Post 1691848)

The SV is a great bike to learn on as the engine brake means its very difficult to flip.

But not impossible. :oops:

Messie 20-11-08 09:31 PM

Re: Wheelie School, anyone done it?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BigApe (Post 1691958)
But not impossible. :oops:


Mmmm true! :)

Stig 20-11-08 09:33 PM

Re: Wheelie School, anyone done it?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Messie (Post 1691979)
Mmmm true! :)

LMAO Don't forget your sworn to secrecy

Messie 20-11-08 09:41 PM

Re: Wheelie School, anyone done it?
 
:thumright::thumright:

454697819 20-11-08 10:30 PM

Re: Wheelie School, anyone done it?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hovis (Post 1691861)
but an extra 100 bhp does not

i used to love wheeling the sv........ but im scared of fliping the blade:(


yeah thats why all I do is fiest gear till I run out of revs... no chance of me flipping it then....

Stig 21-11-08 08:57 AM

Re: Wheelie School, anyone done it?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 454697819 (Post 1692110)
yeah thats why all I do is fiest gear till I run out of revs... no chance of me flipping it then....

Your deluded Sir. The greatest chance of flipping it is in 1st gear.

_Stretchie_ 21-11-08 09:35 AM

Re: Wheelie School, anyone done it?
 
Go on ape, get your 'entry to AR06 rideout' picture up on here..

You know you want to ; ) (And so do we)

454697819 21-11-08 10:07 AM

Re: Wheelie School, anyone done it?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BigApe (Post 1692324)
Your deluded Sir. The greatest chance of flipping it is in 1st gear.


Deluded..... Always sir....

I am more concerned if I hoik it into second the low down umph will wisk me over... Ill do it one day.... :smt003

Davido 21-11-08 12:49 PM

Re: Wheelie School, anyone done it?
 
1st= more engine brake, less speed, less pain.

Stig 21-11-08 02:25 PM

Re: Wheelie School, anyone done it?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Davido (Post 1692583)
1st= more engine brake, less speed, less pain.

It is also the gear with the most amount of initial power. A flick of the wrist in 1st gear as apposed to 2nd will have far quicker response. I've seen your videos you have progressed in a way which I would have said was the best way to learn wheelies. Clutch/throttle combination.

There are some out there that do not seem to be able to master the clutch/throttle method and do it off the power alone. Now doing a 'power wheelie' in 1st is going to have a much faster response than any other gear for obvious reasons. They could very easily find themselves in a whole heap of bother before they even realised they were at that stage.

Stig 21-11-08 02:29 PM

Re: Wheelie School, anyone done it?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by _Stretchie_ (Post 1692354)
Go on ape, get your 'entry to AR06 rideout' picture up on here..

You know you want to ; ) (And so do we)

Go on then...

http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-...31069_3282.jpg

plowsie 21-11-08 02:34 PM

Re: Wheelie School, anyone done it?
 
On the CBR I never power wheelied in first it was always clutched wheelies. Felt more controlled.

sv-robo 21-11-08 06:03 PM

Re: Wheelie School, anyone done it?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BigApe (Post 1692324)
Your deluded Sir. The greatest chance of flipping it is in 1st gear.

+1


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