Originally Posted by melody (Post 1790557)

My car has failed its MOT for two things

1) Rear exhaust has a mounting bracket that does not fully supply the exhaust system. £90 :smt107

2) Lower power steering pipe/hose is leaking £280:smt119

I had my car serviced a couple of months ago, a full service. Surely, these problems should have been picked up at the time ?

And,

Last year my car failed its MOT because of the rear exhaust. So I had it replaced for just shy of £350, so if the mounting bracket is not efficient, surely its their fault since they supplied and fitted the exhaust system?:confused:

My poor Jynx is a failure. Twice.:smt010

Originally Posted by melody (Post 1790557)

My car has failed its MOT for two things

1) Rear exhaust has a mounting bracket that does not fully supply the exhaust system. £90 :smt107

2) Lower power steering pipe/hose is leaking £280:smt119

I had my car serviced a couple of months ago, a full service. Surely, these problems should have been picked up at the time ?

And,

Last year my car failed its MOT because of the rear exhaust. So I had it replaced for just shy of £350, so if the mounting bracket is not efficient, surely its their fault since they supplied and fitted the exhaust system?:confused:

My poor Jynx is a failure. Twice.:smt010

Originally Posted by melody (Post 1790557)

1) Rear exhaust has a mounting bracket that does not fully supply the exhaust system. £90 :smt107

<snip>

And,

Last year my car failed its MOT because of the rear exhaust. So I had it replaced for just shy of £350, so if the mounting bracket is not efficient, surely its their fault since they supplied and fitted the exhaust system?

Originally Posted by melody (Post 1790557)

2) Lower power steering pipe/hose is leaking £280:smt119

I had my car serviced a couple of months ago, a full service. Surely, these problems should have been picked up at the time ?

Originally Posted by Dave20046 (Post 1790562)

Is this at thesame garage? Surely they're not trying it on.
Not sure about the leaky powersteering

Originally Posted by Viney (Post 1790573)

Mel

Most Exhausts carry a 12 month warranty, and some, like Kwik Fit, carry a 2 year warranty, so get it back to who fitted it sharp.

Originally Posted by Luckypants (Post 1790585)

Begs the question, did the exhaust pass the MOT with the mounting bracket now fitted? If so, whoever fitted the exhaust should rectify this under warranty IMHO. If the exhaust was replaced by the same garage as just failed it, take the receipt and previous MOT and demand to know why it passed last year and not this. If they say it has deteriorated, get them to fix it at their expense, a £350 exhaust should last a LOT longer than 12 months.

Last year I was told they would supply and fit a complete new exhaust system so I imagine that would include the mounting bracket

Sounds a lot for a pipe! get them to explain why it is so much, what parts are being replaced etc. Then ring a few places for prices to get a comparison. If it is more than just a pipe, have them justify why it is more than just a pipe.

I will definitely be ringing around.

There was an item on Watchdog this week about Mini power steering failures, might be worth a look on their website to see if BMW are doing anything on this issue, like reduced rates to have rectified or even a recall?

On a lighter note, it is good that it was found because apparently the Mini is almost impossible to steer without power steering. You need to be built like a powerlifter to turn the wheel without it.

Originally Posted by the_lone_wolf (Post 1790561)

modern car service =

change oil + filter

plug in the on board diagnostic machine

no error codes

make a cup of tea

check nothing too important has fallen off

wait 2 hours to phone customer to say it's ready

bend customer over metal desk to extract payment

:rolleyes:

Originally Posted by the_lone_wolf (Post 1790561)

bend customer over metal desk to extract payment

:rolleyes:

Originally Posted by mototech (Post 1790622)

as already said exhaust should last longer than a year for sure, power steering pipes can be expenssive it depends on what needs to be removed to fit it (sometimes alot) can be very time consuming/labour intensive, id definately get that exhaust sorted under warranty and get a second opinion on the power steering leak.

Originally Posted by mototech (Post 1790623)

Sounds about right for a main stealers apart from the plug it in the diagnoastic machine bit that never happens...

Originally Posted by the_lone_wolf (Post 1790642)

yep, only last week i was looking idly at OBDII machines with the view of servicing my near 6yo focus myself

Originally Posted by mototech (Post 1790688)

These are very limited and if you dont know what the data your looking at means then its useless, you dont need one to service your own car only to investigate a fault when the engine management light comes on.

Also the obd machines only do the engine they cant diagnose your abs/airbag/central locking etc.

Originally Posted by Richie (Post 1790647)

£280 to fit a power steering pipe...... FOOK ME BACKWARDS..... there taking you for ride...

Please please please.. get a second opinion.

Originally Posted by shonadoll (Post 1790662)

My friend is selling her Mini-she's had nothing but problems and it's 3 years old. Power steering went, then central locking. I think these cars are really expensive for what they are, but of course BMW prices to repair.

I would have thought you should be covered for the exhaust, that's horrendous, definately get a 2nd opinion-is this a BMW garage? Could you get it done cheaper or do you have a warrantly you need to keep up?

Originally Posted by Richie (Post 1790647)

FOOK ME BACKWARDS

Originally Posted by melody (Post 1790715)

Definitely will do.

Originally Posted by Richie (Post 1790647)

£280 to fit a power steering pipe...... FOOK ME BACKWARDS..... there taking you for ride...

Please please please.. get a second opinion.

Originally Posted by Richie (Post 1792164)

£220 as she got pretty eyes and a nice smile...

Originally Posted by mototech (Post 1790835)

ive worked at main dealers :rolleyes: what i know and have seen would make your toes curl up...

Originally Posted by G (Post 1792296)

When they say exhaust mount....do they/you actually mean the rubber bushes that hold the exhaust to the car.....as these are persihable and can sometimes last just 1 year. I'm not sure what car you have got but an example would be a Mini.....the exhausts are very heavy and the rubber exhaust bushes/mounts are well known for breaking often.

As for the power steering, remove the fuse and say your doing without it...then the leak does not matter. If you dont have power steering its not an MOT failure.

Originally Posted by SV-net (Post 1792307)

What car is this for?
Need a quote PM me what you need I will take a look Monday, it all stinks of a rip off to me buddy. A £350 exhaust should be a decent one, even stainless and lifetime warranty systems are possible for this sort of money (depending on vehicle).

Originally Posted by Dan (Post 1790898)

Richie and I are, collectively, a car-bodg... sorry, fixing machine.

We'll do it for £250. ;)

Originally Posted by Richie (Post 1792164)

£220 as she got pretty eyes and a nice smile...

Originally Posted by Sid Squid (Post 1792865)

Can only echo the advice of a second opinion, but, is the bracket part of the exhaust system, or part of the car the exhaust hangs on to?

If the exhaust, then I would certainly approach whoever fitted it and ask about a warranty repair. If it's part of the car then none of the above advice concerns or has considered that. Check this, it's important.

Originally Posted by melody (Post 1795705)

I had my car looked at yesterday by a different garage so I could get an unbiased assessment. They reckon the bracket is part of the exhaust system so should fall under the warranty. I also asked them to have a look at the power steering problem, and they've quoted me £200 to sort out. Definitely better than £290.

So tomorrow I'm taking it back to the garage that originally fitted the exhaust and hopefully have it rectified as they said they would.

Originally Posted by 600+ (Post 1796067)

good news then ;) next thing u'll find yourself repairing BMW vehicles ;) in the desert

Originally Posted by mototech (Post 1796124)

Nice one mel, i can only assume changing the power steering pipe must be a labour intensive job the pipes propably about £50. Least you have saved yourself £100 more spendin money for your travels eh ;)