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Spiderman 12-05-09 01:55 PM

Inforad fitting advice.
 
ok so i recently bought an Inforad and now need to fit it. :shock:

I know its failry simple to do but since i dont have a Haynes manual for my pointy i dont have any wiring diagrams to follow.

I'd imagine hooking it up to just the battery only isn't the best idea, or is it ok to do that?

And someone mentioned to me the other day that perhaps i shuld consider fitting the main part in the fairing as opposed to under the seat.

And advice gratefully accepted peeps. And the reason i've put this in here is that most of you know i need simple easy to read for a 5yr old instructions. If i posted this elsewhere they'd baffle me with technical words like "current" and"amps" and i'd have to give up. ;)

SoulKiss 12-05-09 02:01 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Spiderman (Post 1903237)
ok so i recently bought an Inforad and now need to fit it. :shock:

I know its failry simple to do but since i dont have a Haynes manual for my pointy i dont have any wiring diagrams to follow.

I'd imagine hooking it up to just the battery only isn't the best idea, or is it ok to do that?

And someone mentioned to me the other day that perhaps i shuld consider fitting the main part in the fairing as opposed to under the seat.

And advice gratefully accepted peeps. And the reason i've put this in here is that most of you know i need simple easy to read for a 5yr old instructions. If i posted this elsewhere they'd baffle me with technical words like "current" and"amps" and i'd have to give up. ;)

Bring it to Frith on Friday and we can get it fitted.

My suggestion would be indicator and arial just behind the screen and take the power feed from the side-lights - ss might as well put the whole unit in the fairing.

Lucas 12-05-09 02:09 PM

Re: Inforad fitting advice...
 
hot wire to plate light cables, sorted :D

Spiderman 12-05-09 02:18 PM

Re: Inforad fitting advice...
 
Thanks for the quick responses guys :)

i'm worried about putting it in the fairing since i ride all year round and the bike is parked outside all the time. So dont want unit getting wet/frozen/road salted.

Could bring it friday to soho but i'd rather get it done before then.

Lucas your idea of connecting to no. plate light sounds sensible actually since that only comes on with the ignition key in and turned right, so now chance of mucking it up and draining the battery there. And easy wirse to find too i guess.

Must be a flaw in that plan then as it sounds too easy, lol.

SoulKiss 12-05-09 02:26 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Spiderman (Post 1903271)
Thanks for the quick responses guys :)

i'm worried about putting it in the fairing since i ride all year round and the bike is parked outside all the time. So dont want unit getting wet/frozen/road salted.

Could bring it friday to soho but i'd rather get it done before then.

Lucas your idea of connecting to no. plate light sounds sensible actually since that only comes on with the ignition key in and turned right, so now chance of mucking it up and draining the battery there. And easy wirse to find too i guess.

Must be a flaw in that plan then as it sounds too easy, lol.

If its up in the nose it will be fine :)

Main reason for saying to put it there is to keep all the wiring in one location - the side lights will work as well as the plate light to run it from.

This way the whole package will be in one place :)

Spiderman 12-05-09 02:32 PM

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Hmm You make a valid point there David. Will have a look about under there ina bit to see how easy it is to access it all.

fairings are all new to me still, lol.

Lucas 12-05-09 02:43 PM

Re: Inforad fitting advice...
 
Check and make sure the led cable reaches the front as it is very short, that will dictate where to fit the main unit, under front or pillion seat, mine is between the two :D

Davies 12-05-09 02:45 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Spiderman (Post 1903298)
fairings are all new to me still, lol.

They're the pretty :flower: bits on the outside of the frame. HTH :D


My inforad needs fitting too...........just another one of those jobs that I haven't got round to yet.

SoulKiss 12-05-09 03:03 PM

Re: Inforad fitting advice...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bender (Post 1903313)
They're the pretty :flower: bits on the outside of the frame. HTH :D


My inforad needs fitting too...........just another one of those jobs that I haven't got round to yet.

Again, bring to Frith and we can sort it - it really IS that simple a job.

Only tricky bit is selecting what to splice to and then fixing the damned thing in place.

Worst case scenario is it is "dry fitted", ie we work out what goes where, then you go off and do it yourself if for example self-adhesive Velcro on the unit and the inside of a fairing would be the way to go (and we dont have those items :)

Sid Squid 12-05-09 03:40 PM

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Please leave such things to a grown up who can be relied upon not to fry your bike.
Where you splice the Inforad supply, (or any electrical accessory), is very important - you need to make sure this is connected such that a fault won't render your bike dangerous or unusable. Just because it's connected and working does not mean it's suitable.

There is an excellent place on a pointy SV for an Inforad to go - easily accessible for updating the unit, and keeps the cable runs short.

Who said the LED cable is short? What are you doing with it - mounting it in a trailer :confused:

SoulKiss 12-05-09 03:45 PM

Re: Inforad fitting advice...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sid Squid (Post 1903396)
Please leave such things to a grown up who can be relied upon not to fry your bike.
Where you splice the Inforad supply, (or any electrical accessory), is very important - you need to make sure this is connected such that a fault won't render your bike dangerous or unusable. Just because it's connected and working does not mean it's suitable.

There is an excellent place on a pointy SV for an Inforad to go - easily accessible for updating the unit, and keeps the cable runs short.

Who said the LED cable is short? What are you doing with it - mounting it in a trailer :confused:

LOL - why do you think I fell back to the "dry fit" option Birthday Boy ?

Spiderman 12-05-09 04:06 PM

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Right, been out and had a fiddle. Seemed to me that under the rear set was the best location for mine leaving plenty of room to attach/remove the processor bit.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sid Squid (Post 1903396)
There is an excellent place on a pointy SV for an Inforad to go - easily accessible for updating the unit, and keeps the cable runs short.

So you gonna tell me where this magical place is or is it a Sid Squid Secret, lol.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sid Squid (Post 1903396)
Who said the LED cable is short? What are you doing with it - mounting it in a trailer :confused:

Not me, all my cables were plently long enough to run from the rear seat. I hooked it up to the rear number plate light wires just to see if it all works and it did. But tis too bloody windy and cold out there for me to go taking all the plastics etc off and do a decent job of it today.

But if the Secret Sid Squid, Keeper Of Squid like Secrets will enlighten me on where this magic location is he speak off then i might have a crack at it tomorrow. :lol:

But since its his birthday i really do hope he's out n about doing much more fun and inteesting things than reading this.

rictus01 12-05-09 08:15 PM

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having fitted three of these now, there is no simpler electrical device to install, a few basic rule to follow, But as Ian said (in so many words) saftey first, choose an aux circuit ignition controled, access to remove the updateable part, and unobstructed location for the arial.

As my installations were on three naked bikes (even the 404,which has NO room anywhere), fairings should make the mounting location even easier I'd guess.

Cheers Mark.

Spiderman 12-05-09 08:25 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rictus01 (Post 1903723)
h..... choose an aux circuit ignition controled.

Thanks Mark. Would you say the wires for the number plate light would fall under that definition?

Plan to put the ariel part offest to right above speedo, behind screen which seems like a sensible location to me.

rictus01 12-05-09 08:34 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Spiderman (Post 1903740)
Thanks Mark. Would you say the wires for the number plate light would fall under that definition?

Plan to put the ariel part offest to right above speedo, behind screen which seems like a sensible location to me.

yeah the number plate light feed will be fine, although make sure the soldered joint is within the bike and not under the mudguard and properly done (I heat shrinked it, but well taped will be fine), will the square bit of the ariel be obstructed at all ? as it can sometimes make getting the three required satalite lock-ons, difficult, the clearer "view of the sky" the better (mine are all fitted on the tail section in the middle as it's totally unobstructed).

Cheers Mark

Spiderman 12-05-09 09:21 PM

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Theres already a connection under the seat to the wires so easy peasy. I'll get some heay duty velco to hold the unit in there too i think. then just run my wires nice and neatly along and jobs a good 'unas they say :)

my grab rail would obscure the riel too much if i put it at the back and its only the screen at the front. It'll be facing forward thru that angled, well at the angle the clock housing its sits on is at, i guess, lol. I'm sure Ians is in pretty much the same place on his bike.

Thanks again Mark.

Lucas 12-05-09 09:55 PM

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My ariel is under the tail plastic and works fine :D

monkey 13-05-09 11:36 AM

Re: Inforad fitting advice...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sid Squid (Post 1903396)
Who said the LED cable is short? What are you doing with it - mounting it in a trailer :confused:

On my first one it was only just possible to fit the unit in the Kwak's rear plastics with enough length to get the led cable hidden and routed all the way to the front. Maybe they're coming out slightly different.

Zig I'll fit yours to the SV if you fit mine to the Daytona!

Spiderman 13-05-09 11:46 AM

Re: Inforad fitting advice...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lucas (Post 1903882)
My ariel is under the tail plastic and works fine :D

Now i like this idea. But doesnt all the other wiring under there cause any interference to the unit then?

Quote:

Originally Posted by teriyakimonkey (Post 1904396)
On my first one it was only just possible to fit the unit in the Kwak's rear plastics with enough length to get the led cable hidden and routed all the way to the front. Maybe they're coming out slightly different.

Zig I'll fit yours to the SV if you fit mine to the Daytona!

haha, i'm assuming its a bit more tricky on the Daytona then is it? Trust me, you really dont want me fiddling with wiring, i'm utterly rubbish at it.

Lucas 13-05-09 01:13 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Spiderman (Post 1904413)
Now i like this idea. But doesnt all the other wiring under there cause any interference to the unit then?

doesn't seem too.

Cazza 13-05-09 05:50 PM

Re: Inforad fitting advice.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Spiderman (Post 1903450)
Seemed to me that under the rear set was the best location for mine

I don't know much about bikes. But even to me, this doesn't sound like a good idea.

HTH.

PS: Now that you've practiced on yours... fancy a fiddle with a TT? :)

SoulKiss 13-05-09 06:43 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Cazza (Post 1905041)
I don't know much about bikes. But even to me, this doesn't sound like a good idea.

HTH.

PS: Now that you've practiced on yours... fancy a fiddle with a TT? :)

When are you free to bring the Booby Bike over to get that fairing looked at?

monkey 13-05-09 06:48 PM

Re: Inforad fitting advice.
 
Well Zig I've found my spot and it seems the inforad will be getting a thorough test of it's waterproofness. I mailed them a while back and this is what they said:

"Dear Sir/Madam,

Thank you for contacting Inforad Technical support,

We could not sell the M1 for motorbikes if it was not completely Waterproof,..."


So there we go. I you need waterproof crimps I'll bring some to Soho with me.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Cazza (Post 1905041)
...
PS: Now that you've practiced on yours... fancy a fiddle with a TT? :)

Ooh er! Can I have a go after Zig?

Spiderman 14-05-09 12:13 AM

Re: Inforad fitting advice.
 
:oops: I'll fiddle with your booby anytime Caaza my love. Just dont slap me again like you did last time when i had a grope, ok? ;)

I'm probably gonna fit mine tomorrow so if you wanna bring it to Soho on friday or if you aint comming pop over anytime over the weekend we can get it done. Obviously Cazz, when i say "we" i mean me do the work, you make the tea and watch me till you're bored and go off to watch telly instead :lol:

monkey 14-05-09 01:26 AM

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Joker. He he he he. The only thing you worked on was the biscuits!

Spiderman 14-05-09 02:40 PM

Re: Inforad fitting advice.
 
You're talking about when we were all at Saeeds right Monkey? I was all ready to wade in and do whatever was required but you know what they say about too many cooks n all that and since Rictus was there what possible use was i gonna be over him?
So biscuits it was :)

Devil Biccy 14-05-09 05:43 PM

Re: Inforad fitting advice.
 
reminds me i still owe you your footpeg and I need mine back for the "hero" blob thingy....... also need to get down to Rictus's place to get peg and foot plate back on.

Spiderman 14-05-09 07:09 PM

Re: Inforad fitting advice.
 
Who me? you owe me nothing of the sort my good man...unless you nicked it when i wasn't looking??

Thank you everyone for your help and advice. I'd like to let you know i've now fitted the Inforad and been out for a ride to make sure its all working etc. The lack of speed cameras in my local area mean didn't get to test that part yet, but i'm not complaingin about the lack of speed cameras before you think i've gone nuts.

Best bit is that my bike hasn't caught fire or anything so the wiring must have been done right and i didnt even electrocute myself in the process or damage another partt of the bike while was i was doing this. All things ive done before when trying to fix things :oops:

Now if anyone needs an hand fitting theirs or any advice on it, i'm happy to help :)

rictus01 14-05-09 07:20 PM

Re: Inforad fitting advice.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Devil Biccy (Post 1906981)
reminds me i still owe you your footpeg and I need mine back for the "hero" blob thingy....... also need to get down to Rictus's place to get peg and foot plate back on.

Indeed mate, just shout and we'll sort something.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spiderman (Post 1907173)
Who me? you owe me nothing of the sort my good man...unless you nicked it when i wasn't looking??

Thank you everyone for your help and advice. I'd like to let you know i've now fitted the Inforad and been out for a ride to make sure its all working etc. The lack of speed cameras in my local area mean didn't get to test that part yet, but i'm not complaingin about the lack of speed cameras before you think i've gone nuts.

Best bit is that my bike hasn't caught fire or anything so the wiring must have been done right and i didnt even electrocute myself in the process or damage another partt of the bike while was i was doing this. All things ive done before when trying to fix things :oops:

Now if anyone needs an hand fitting theirs or any advice on it, i'm happy to help :)

So the smoke coming out from under the seat is normal then..............;)

Spiderman 14-05-09 07:42 PM

Re: Inforad fitting advice.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rictus01 (Post 1907198)
So the smoke coming out from under the seat is normal then..............;)

Yeh, apparently. I called Inforad and they said "They all do that, Sir" ;)

Devil Biccy 14-05-09 08:15 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Spiderman (Post 1907173)
Who me? you owe me nothing of the sort my good man...unless you nicked it when i wasn't looking??

Thank you everyone for your help and advice. I'd like to let you know i've now fitted the Inforad and been out for a ride to make sure its all working etc. The lack of speed cameras in my local area mean didn't get to test that part yet, but i'm not complaingin about the lack of speed cameras before you think i've gone nuts.

Best bit is that my bike hasn't caught fire or anything so the wiring must have been done right and i didnt even electrocute myself in the process or damage another partt of the bike while was i was doing this. All things ive done before when trying to fix things :oops:

Now if anyone needs an hand fitting theirs or any advice on it, i'm happy to help :)

No It's off TM's bike

Spiderman 21-05-09 07:46 PM

Re: Inforad fitting advice.
 
Me again :)

OK, so now i've got it fitted and working...and its great. Today i tried the trip recorder thingy BUT i have no idea where or how to enter the co-ordinates it gives me into a mapping programme so i can see the trip.

Its like Rictus Friday thread from a couple of weeks ago, its all numbers and neither Google nor Multimap want to help me.

So, oh brilliant and wise Orgers...wtf do i do with these kind of numbers 51.75378;-0.24627 ??????

rictus01 21-05-09 08:07 PM

Re: Inforad fitting advice.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Spiderman (Post 1916409)
Me again :)

OK, so now i've got it fitted and working...and its great. Today i tried the trip recorder thingy BUT i have no idea where or how to enter the co-ordinates it gives me into a mapping programme so i can see the trip.

Its like Rictus Friday thread from a couple of weeks ago, its all numbers and neither Google nor Multimap want to help me.

So, oh brilliant and wise Orgers...wtf do i do with these kind of numbers 51.75378;-0.24627 ??????

the CSV output file is split into Latitude, longditude,date & time, and trip number.

the delimiters are semi colones for import purposes.

best done with Autoroute as it has a data import tool, which is easier.

Cheers Mark.

Spiderman 21-05-09 08:20 PM

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Thanks Mark :)

And is the Autoroute you're reffering to btw? http://www.microsoft.com/uk/homepc/a.../products.aspx

monkey 21-05-09 10:23 PM

Re: Inforad fitting advice.
 
Yeperoony. We can compare installs tomorrow!

Spiderman 21-05-09 11:22 PM

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excellent...said in my best mr burns voice of course :)

Lucas 22-05-09 08:27 AM

Re: Inforad fitting advice.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by teriyakimonkey (Post 1916667)
Yeperoony. We can compare installs tomorrow!

sounds fun, we can compare our stamp collection too! ;)

Sid Squid 24-05-09 08:42 AM

Re: Inforad fitting advice.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by teriyakimonkey (Post 1916667)
Yeperoony. We can compare installs tomorrow!

Indeed you could do that - then you could look at Paul's R1 and see how it should be done.

Davies 25-05-09 08:40 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sid Squid (Post 1918736)
Indeed you could do that - then you could look at Paul's R1 and see how it should be done.

:smt052

mattb200 13-06-09 08:47 AM

Re: Inforad fitting advice.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Spiderman (Post 1916409)
Me again :)

OK, so now i've got it fitted and working...and its great. Today i tried the trip recorder thingy BUT i have no idea where or how to enter the co-ordinates it gives me into a mapping programme so i can see the trip.

I


Hi mate,

got mine and cannot think of where to put it?? where did you put yours in the end and got any photo's please??

Only place i can think of is attached to the rear subframe on right hand side (sitting on bike). trouble is its then a plastics off job to update:(
seen people mention in the front fairing but where exactly?

if anyones got any advice on fitting to a pointy would be appreciated
thanks


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