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how loud is 105db?
hi,
just been looking at doing my 1st trackday and noticed that there is a 105 db noise limit, just wondered if anyone could try and spell out how load that is in the real world. i have a 350mm delkevic exhaust on my bike and its fairly load, used to have a fuel exhaust on it, iv noticed there is a few people on here with them on and wondered if they have eve been tested as i think that was louder than it is now. any help/advice muchly apprieciated, cheers |
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this loud which is not as loud as pete and lissa's old SV, which had a stubbied exhuast which was this loud Generally though, a slip-on ehaust is often no more than 105 db. SV's are generally quiet bikes; my SV with its fuel end can on is not as loud as say a GSXR with a loud end-can. |
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Mine measured 99 db at 4500 rpm with a stubby Fuel without baffle at Snetterton. That was a nice deep tone so I should imagine you will be OK, especially if you have one of those baffle thingies that I have heard of.....
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its very difficult to tell by ear just how loud a bike is, sounds daft but true.
I've heard loud race bikes that register pretty low with a sound meter. Its the type of sound, not just the perceived volume. A raspy 2 stroke 125 will register much higher than your average 4 stroke screamer. The other thing is that the sound meter test should be done at a specific rev limit based on the bore and stroke and type of motor. Your bike might be very quiet at the test revs and loud as hell higher up. Only way to test for sure is with a meter. |
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my bike with a straight through two brothers racing can is super quite below 5k rpm, then comes to life, and really makes a noise after 9k rpm :)
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C&P'd from some forum I found on google.
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Remember that for every 3dB increase the noise gets twice as loud. ;)
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So surly it dont make noise too often? :rolleyes: |
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and no, it dosent make noise too often, unless Im going to a proper ride, it works out well I think, quite in town when you dont really want to attract attention, then lets everyone know you are coming when you push! :p |
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From onboard mine seems loudest at 3K... which is about the RPM I ride at in town, well between 2.5K and 3K most of the time. Woops. As to weather it is actually the loudest from off the bike. Im not too sure, would guess not.
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Yup every 3db is a doubling of volume but only electronically measured with no weighting.
For a percieved doubling in volume a 6-10db increase would be required. This is because the human ear automatically attenuates low frequencies. So V-Twin are generally much quieter to the ear than a screaming IL4. Ever noticed how you hear a V-Twin rev and you smile where as an IL4 you wince??? |
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I found that it feels like it get quieter as you go faster, but I guess that makes sence as the can is behind you.
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I would say that's because the faster you go the more wind noise you get which'll drown the can out.
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This thread aint going to help.....
My SV Micron Race System (Baffless) Got through the 105dB. TSM's similar, missing some wadding was louder (If I recall). I pack a removable baffle in case. |
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Er yes sound is logarithmic however the my explaination is not describing sound as a logrithm my explaination is describing the low frequency dampening effect the human ear has naturally that explains why if you double the amount of acoustic energy it wouldn't be percieved as twice as loud.
I know what you are saying that its hard to tell when something is twice as loud but it can be measured taking into account the dampening effect the human ear has. |
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thanks for the posts, think by the sounds of it* i should be ok, im sure its not as loud as my old fuel can, maybe a bit meatier though.
think il take the baffle under my seat just in case. *no pun intended! |
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But decibels (sp?) are not linear like a ruler, its logartithmic. For example if one bike has a sound level og 60db then 4 bikes would be a hell of a lot louder (i.e. 60db x 4). so is the 105db limit per bike or overall? ;) No idea how you'd work out how loud your bike is though. |
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i'll have to record the loudness although phone quality is probably pants. |
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1 bike, say 60dB add a second bike which makes an identical noise - you've now got 2 bikes at 60dB each, so you've doubled the sound intensity - thats now 63dB, as 3dB represents "twice as loud". (I always thought it was 6dB but that could be something else - its been a few years since i was at college). Add another 2 identically sounding bikes, you've doubled it again - so 66dB. Now these bikes would not normally be making identical noises in sync with one another. Sound is a wave - 2 identical waves in phase would produce double the sound intensity, but entirely out-of-phase would produce silence. So in fact with 4 bikes all producing 60dB - you're probably not gonna get to much more than 61dB there. |
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