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Dicky Ticker 02-06-09 06:25 PM

Triumph clocks - good or bad?
 
Triumphs with the new instrument cluster that can show your maximum speed attained during your journey.
I have a Triumph but one of the older ones without this but my GPS does record your maximum speed if switched on

Question for our boys in blue,would it be possible to charge/convict on this evidence in the same manner as you would with the tachograph in a commercial vehicle?

joshmac 02-06-09 06:30 PM

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I would've thought they'd have to be able to prove when you were doing this speed. If you get pulled can you not just reset the trip?

Alpinestarhero 02-06-09 06:32 PM

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I guess first it would have to be proved that it was calibrated properly. And where does the speedo come from? If its the rear wheel, then maybe you just did a burnout...

Jdubya 02-06-09 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by joshmac (Post 1928552)
I would've thought they'd have to be able to prove when you were doing this speed. If you get pulled can you not just reset the trip?


You could but it is a very "noticeable" process and when you've just been moving and your max speed travelled shows a big fat zero it does look a tad suspicious...

joshmac 02-06-09 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Jdubya (Post 1928558)
You could but it is a very "noticeable" process and when you've just been moving and your max speed travelled shows a big fat zero it does look a tad suspicious...

True, but would they really know it was there to look for it? If not why not just leave it?
Could try and Reset, turn the ignition off and take off your lid to make it look like you're cooperating. I guess it'd still be obvious that you're doing something with the clocks...

Eeyore 02-06-09 06:39 PM

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you only need an officers opinion to be convicted, generally it will be corrobarated by a device, but the officer has to believe you were speeding in the first case.
The info on its own is not admissable if the speeding wasnt witnessed by an officer.
Thats why speed cameras have road markings so the officer can form the opinion an offence was committed corrobarated by the reading of the radar. :drink:

joshmac 02-06-09 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Eeyore (Post 1928565)
you only need an officers opinion to be convicted, generally it will be corrobarated by a device, but the officer has to believe you were speeding in the first case.
The info on its own is not admissable if the speeding wasnt witnessed by an officer.
Thats why speed cameras have road markings so the officer can form the opinion an offence was committed corrobarated by the reading of the radar. :drink:

That's the situation I had in my head after reading the OP

the white rabbit 02-06-09 06:48 PM

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Wouldn't they need a search warrant to go pushing buttons to look for things? :p

Eeyore 02-06-09 06:56 PM

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Nope, and if they really wanted to make your life difficult they could sieze the bike as evidence :-|

Jamiebridges123 02-06-09 06:57 PM

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No it cannot be used.. If they clock you at 129 on their machine and your clocks says 135 then ok, maybe...it could be used as SUPPORTING evidence..

But if they check through it at the roadside when they pull you for your plate, they can't use that information for anything. It's not worth the numbers it's displaying.

"So sir I see you've had 105 out of your bike"...

"Wasn't me..."
"Was on a track day.."
"Was on a closed circuit.."
"Was on the autobahn on a recent trip to the nurburgring" etc etc.

yorkie_chris 02-06-09 07:53 PM

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Or even "oh the back wheel span up on some gravel back there, nearly had me off it did.."
(most new jap stuff takes speedo pickup on gearbox output shaft)

Jamiebridges123 02-06-09 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by yorkie_chris (Post 1928628)
Or even "oh the back wheel span up on some gravel back there, nearly had me off it did.."
(most new jap stuff takes speedo pickup on gearbox output shaft)

Yup, another to add to the list!

Not to mention... dyno..on a paddock stand, blah blah blah.

ThEGr33k 02-06-09 09:42 PM

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I have this issue. Just have to either delete it quick if you get pulled or hope that the Police man dont know about it! :smt118

skeetly 02-06-09 10:16 PM

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Its not time stamped nor calibrated so its not worth a hoot to the cops :)

hob 02-06-09 11:28 PM

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It is the same as spoilers that activate at a certain speed, pretty obvious if you have been speeding, I believe some can be activated via manual override though.

monkey 02-06-09 11:37 PM

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Well mine still says 168 after a dyno run last year. I'd be willing to bet him my girlfriend that I hadn't been that fast on the bike and tell him to prove it!

Jamiebridges123 02-06-09 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by hob (Post 1928918)
It is the same as spoilers that activate at a certain speed, pretty obvious if you have been speeding, I believe some can be activated via manual override though.

Yeah nearly all of them come up at like 64mph or have the "look at me i'm a flash git" button. Again none can be used in a court of law or to proove speeding xD :grouphug:

Lou M 03-06-09 04:04 PM

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And here was me thinking that our boys in blue wouldn't know about this on my Triumph clock, but you've just advertised it! Best zero my clock tonight then!!!

mattSV 03-06-09 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Lou M (Post 1929683)
And here was me thinking that our boys in blue wouldn't know about this on my Triumph clock, but you've just advertised it! Best zero my clock tonight then!!!

Likewise :rolleyes:

joshmac 03-06-09 05:45 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Lou M (Post 1929683)
And here was me thinking that our boys in blue wouldn't know about this on my Triumph clock, but you've just advertised it! Best zero my clock tonight then!!!

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Originally Posted by mattSV (Post 1929743)
Likewise :rolleyes:

But it's been explained that they can't use it as evidence as it doesn't give a time stamp and could've been a dyno, trackday, joe bloggs who took it for a test ride...


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