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GeoffB 13-06-09 07:46 PM

Rear caliper mounting bolts
 
While preparing my 99 curvy 650S for MOt yesterday, passed no prob hooray, I decided to pop the rear caliper off to clean and grease the pins holding the pads in. I do it about once a year and torque the bolts down correctly. Can't remember the figure off hand, but it's not very high.

So with about 3 hrs before the test appointment, the first bolt sheared when I just nipped it up. When I looked better at the second I could see it was badly stretched. I was able to get 2 new bolts (thanks CJ Balls at Hale) but 2 points:

First, is this something generally known about? I find it a bit odd that such a low torque figure should stretch the bolts like that. Or could it be a result of braking forces? I'm not a heavy user of the back brake. Any opinions? Having thought about it, I vaguely remember seeing somewhere that these bolts shouldn't be reused, but renewed each time. I thought it was overkill, but apparently not. The front caliper bolts look fine, but I'm replacing them anyway.

Secondly, it might be worth popping your caliper bolts out and having a look, if you haven't recently. I'm glad mine didn't shear while I was riding.

Ride safe all!

Holdup 13-06-09 07:58 PM

Re: Rear caliper mounting bolts
 
One of mine snaped when i was cleaning mine rr caliper up :(

Tip for pointy (K3 dunno about other models) owners if you need anything for your rr brake caliper pop to your local Honda dealership and ask for the part you req for a CBF600 04, when i snapped my bolt i phoned suzuki dealers they wanted £5 odd for the bolt i needed, went to work started cross refing and found that the 04 CBF600 uses the same rr caliper and the same bolt was only abourt £2 :thumright:

sam anon 14-06-09 10:04 PM

Re: Rear caliper mounting bolts
 
Yeah one of mine snapped too, while using a torque wrench.

I suspect I set it incorrectly though, and the length of the wrench masked how tight I was going. Luckily the hole exits the back of hanger so you can get the rest of the bolt out easily.

TheShadow 15-06-09 08:14 AM

Re: Rear caliper mounting bolts
 
I am another person who snapped one of these bolts. Currently wondering the best method of getting it out.

flymo 15-06-09 08:17 AM

Re: Rear caliper mounting bolts
 
OEM brake caliper bolts are a disposable item according to the manual. Should be replaced each time.

I picked up a nice set made of stainless from 'tasty nuts'.


Edit - actually no it doesnt say that for the SV, but it did advise that for my CBR600. I think you could safely get away with re-using them half a dozen times or so but worth keeping a set handy. I wouldnt want to shear one of those during braking.

sam anon 15-06-09 08:29 AM

Re: Rear caliper mounting bolts
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheShadow (Post 1941427)
I am another person who snapped one of these bolts. Currently wondering the best method of getting it out.

They're pretty easy to remove, as the whole they thread into exits the back of the hanger.

A drill will just spin them out of the back. You may need to remove the hanger depending how much bolt is left in there as the rear brake disc may stop it coming out entirely.

Now the bolt has no head, the threaded part isn't tight as such.

Holdup 15-06-09 09:52 AM

Re: Rear caliper mounting bolts
 
I was quite lucky with mine, ok my mount and caliper are at the top but i managed to get some pliers twist it out and bodge a bolt from my FZR in there before i got a new one, just couldnt use the rr brake though

maviczap 15-06-09 10:04 AM

Re: Rear caliper mounting bolts
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by flymo (Post 1941430)
I picked up a nice set made of stainless from 'tasty nuts'.

+1 they look much better too

GeoffB 15-06-09 08:43 PM

Re: Rear caliper mounting bolts
 
Thanks for the comments. I'll be keeping a regular check on them, front and rear now anyway. The broken stub was easy to remove on mine: the bolt had sheared about 3mm from the head, so there was plenty to get hold of. It came out with fingers only, but as I said, I'd literally only just nipped it up when it sheared, and it was coppergreased too.

Aren't SV's lovely bikes eh? Had mine 6 years and it still gives me a buzz every time I go in the garage.

All best to all.
GeoffB

FishyMug 20-06-09 01:35 PM

Re: Rear caliper mounting bolts
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by flymo (Post 1941430)
OEM brake caliper bolts are a disposable item according to the manual. Should be replaced each time.

I picked up a nice set made of stainless from 'tasty nuts'.


Edit - actually no it doesnt say that for the SV, but it did advise that for my CBR600. I think you could safely get away with re-using them half a dozen times or so but worth keeping a set handy. I wouldnt want to shear one of those during braking.

I'm looking to do my rear pads soon, i had a look at tastynuts they've got some nice looking gear, but i can't find the caliper mounting bolts on their site, also is it worth replacing the pins with titanium ones? mines a K5

FishyMug 22-06-09 08:27 PM

Re: Rear caliper mounting bolts
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by FishyMug (Post 1947870)
I'm looking to do my rear pads soon, i had a look at tastynuts they've got some nice looking gear, but i can't find the caliper mounting bolts on their site, also is it worth replacing the pins with titanium ones? mines a K5

Just to make sure, we ARE talking about the 2 caliper mounting bolts aren't we? does anyone know their size? :smt100

thefallenangel 22-06-09 09:47 PM

Re: Rear caliper mounting bolts
 
pointy ones rust in lessa than a year lol. Will be going for warranty replacements.

flymo 22-06-09 10:01 PM

Re: Rear caliper mounting bolts
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by FishyMug (Post 1949686)
Just to make sure, we ARE talking about the 2 caliper mounting bolts aren't we? does anyone know their size? :smt100

There is only 1 mounting bolt on the rear caliper on a pointy. I can check the size once we've confirmed exactly which bolts you are asking about.

FishyMug 24-06-09 07:23 PM

Re: Rear caliper mounting bolts
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by flymo (Post 1949807)
There is only 1 mounting bolt on the rear caliper on a pointy. I can check the size once we've confirmed exactly which bolts you are asking about.

I've attached a photo, these are what looks like them, no.1 definitely is, and no.2 looks like it attaches the caliper too. any help you can give would be much appreciated

http://www.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/97e5e52c4f.jpg

flymo 24-06-09 07:33 PM

Re: Rear caliper mounting bolts
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by FishyMug (Post 1951910)
...no.1 definitely is, and no.2 looks like it attaches the caliper too. any help you can give would be much appreciated

Ok, No:1 in your photo is the bolt that fastens the caliper to the mounting bracket. No:2 isnt a conventional bolt as such, it screws into the caliper but the other end of it is smooth (where you would expect there to be a thread). The smooth section slips into the caliper bracket in a rubber boot that normally contains grease. The entire caliper is able to slide back and forth on grease.

So, No:1 can be sourced anywhere, either as a genuine replacement part from Suzuki or as a stainless one from Probolt etc. No:2 is a Suzuki only I'm afraid unless you can find somewhere that makes them in stainless, but thats unlikely.

FishyMug 24-06-09 08:06 PM

Re: Rear caliper mounting bolts
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by flymo (Post 1951921)
Ok, No:1 in your photo is the bolt that fastens the caliper to the mounting bracket. No:2 isnt a conventional bolt as such, it screws into the caliper but the other end of it is smooth (where you would expect there to be a thread). The smooth section slips into the caliper bracket in a rubber boot that normally contains grease. The entire caliper is able to slide back and forth on grease.

So, No:1 can be sourced anywhere, either as a genuine replacement part from Suzuki or as a stainless one from Probolt etc. No:2 is a Suzuki only I'm afraid unless you can find somewhere that makes them in stainless, but thats unlikely.

Thanks Flymo! any idea on the size of the mounting bolt? and whether a steel replacement would react with the aluminium mount?

flymo 24-06-09 08:52 PM

Re: Rear caliper mounting bolts
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by FishyMug (Post 1951975)
Thanks Flymo! any idea on the size of the mounting bolt? and whether a steel replacement would react with the aluminium mount?

I'll check the size, need to be careful though, dont just replace it with any old stainless bolt. It needs to be high tensile due to the stresses it can be placed under.

Spanner Man 24-06-09 09:05 PM

Re: Rear caliper mounting bolts
 
Evening all.

Number 1 bolt has a standard M8 x 1.25mm thread, & is around 45mm long.
As said it is a stressed component, & should be replaced with either a standard bolt, or a stainless bolt of a suitable grade.

Number 2 bolt/slider pin has a 12 x 1.25mm thread & is indeed only available as an original part. A similar caliper was used on 1990's CBR600's & I'm pretty certain that the bolt is the same. So if you're stuck for one a Honda dealer may be able to help.


Cheers.

Holdup 24-06-09 09:44 PM

Re: Rear caliper mounting bolts
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Spanner Man (Post 1952048)
A similar caliper was used on 1990's CBR600's & I'm pretty certain that the bolt is the same. So if you're stuck for one a Honda dealer may be able to help.


Cheers.

Refer to post 2 :)

Although most dealers whether it be Honda or Suzuki are very unlikely to keep it in stock, but it only norm takes a day to be ordered


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