33bhp Dyno Resutls
 

Just taken my bike to get dynoed so i have got the poof for my insurance in the event of a claim .

i have a SV650N 05 with ECU restiction. And a Scorpion Extreme Stubby Exhaust end can .

I had the baffle out when it was dynoed.

it came in at 35.19 BHP

So im driving around with void insurance,

in theory i might as well at put my full power ECU back in !!

Do you think it would make a diffrence if i put my baffle back in ?

i asked the guy could he make it 33 and he give it a good few runs but the best he could get was 33.99

i have atached the readings .

so what can i do now. would the insurance take into consideration that the bike is acutally resticted or would they turn round and say your bike is 35 not 33 for Duck Off. ?

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Dynojet dynos overread.

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Should have done it baffled. What make is the ECU? You should have told him to strap it down harder or something to make it read under 33 :razz:. I'd go back and try it with the baffle in.

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I reakon that'll be fine, you could get it dynoed on a different machine and it could have 30bhp showing, they're not perfectly accurate. It still gives a proof of restriction, i never had to give proof of my restriction but i guess not all insurers are the same!!!!

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It won't be fine, he's supposed to be restricted to 33bhp, that certificate shows otherwise (insurance companies don't think like we do), if it was me I'd leave it and worry about it when/if the situation arrises.

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It will be fine, but showing that printout won't do you a lot of good. Why didn't he just fudge it by changing the correction factor or something?

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why bother with the dyno. dont you have a cert explaining that you have a restricted ECU in your bike. have you told your insurance company about your exhaust? if you have then your insurance is valid.

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In theory there's no need for certificates of any kind, it's only when there's a claim such things come in handy. The dyno certificate hindle's just had done would incriminate him so best binning it/safekeeping it. I'm guessing the ecu was second hand or something so didn't come with a certificate. Something you could do is take it to a bike shop, swap ECU's hand them the restricted ECU ask them to fit it and give you a recipt then part with a fiver. I would have thought a receipt from a mechanic saying they'd fitted a restrictor kit would be enough.

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I wouldn't worry any way, you don't need a certificate to prove restrction anyway, I have checked this several times from different sources.

Also a different machine will be used than the one you used anways. The bike is limted in power anyway.

Besides when I got my bike dynoed, the guy said depending on what dyno you used it it will give slightly differntly reading anyway. From my understanding you have to use the same dyno for counity any way. I'm sure that the more expericed guys can expain it.

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Again you don't need anything, if you have one then great.

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i did ask that and they all insurers said they would only accept Certifaction or DYNO Print out .

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A certificate could be part of insurers T+Cs though even if not required by law.

I checked with 3x insurers that I held policies with on a restricted license, they were not fussed at all, and simply stated they would inspect the bike if I was suspected of being at fault in a crash.

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******** :smt017 May have to take it to a dyno guy with your baffle, if it's still no good get him to fiddle it or find an ingenious way of downing the power readings. Block the air intake? ?

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ok cheers guys ...sounded kool though . iv got an iphone so i couldnt record it lol .

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Dyno has a temperature sensor, cool it down, let a few psi out of the tyres, strap it down tighter, do it on a cold engine.
Or just don't open the throttle all the way.

Basically all the tricks that dyno-man does to you AFTER fitting some expensive part just done backwards! :-P

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Exactly what I was thinking

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well he tried it with out full throttle and the best he got out of like 5 attempts and 33.99 . and he said he cant do better than that because the din ?? or somthing on the printout wont match up . and they will be able to tell that its not been done propely .

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33.whatever is perfectly fine. There is an amount of error allowance in any restriction. How many bikes out there with carb restrictors are exactly on the nail?

If you show a cert for a 72hp bike showing 34hp you'll be sorted.

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iv just got a gut feeling that ill get done over in the event of a claim but like others said ill just cross that bridge when it comes if it comes .

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In my opinion (for all that counts for) if you showed the certificate you hold now you almost certainly would be. You're license entitles you to ride anything up to 33bhp, you hold a bit of paper saying you were riding something other than that. I can only see it doing damage, insurance companies are not fair people and will be c0cks at any opportunity.

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The only thing to note here is that some insurers do insist on the certificate as a condition of insurance- so if you don't have it, you can be screwed despite the fact that it's not a legal requirement.

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Surely they need to specify it upon/before covering you?

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Like i said in earlyer in the post around 9/10 and i asked the talk to a manager because i was getting mixed answers from the people taking the calls saying they need a cert and some saying a dyno is not classed as proof and some saying that a dyno is fine . all the managers i spoke to said the only form of Proof they would take is a Certification or a DYNO print out with the Bike REG. no other form what so ever .

and they dont all want proof before they insure you some just need it in the event of a claim .

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You can get a bent certificate on eBay for a tenner.

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Yup, but have you read all of your small print? Most people don't.

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do you think these would work ?

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I really wouldn't advise you use one of those. You could get done for fraud if you tried to use it in the event of a claim and they're not just going to take your word for it that the restriction is still in. I guess if you wrote of your bike so it couldn't be tested, they'd just look for the restricted ECU part number.

As Dave numbers said, your licence only entitles you to ride a bike with power output of <25KW, which translates to 33BHP (at least I think that's how it works), so if you're riding a bike with 35BHP, you're not legal. You'd have to be able to prove that the dyno was over reading.

Which insurance company is this that's making you show proof? How much are you paying (if you don't mind me asking)? Just wondering if it's really worth staying with this company as it sounds like they'd do everything possible to get out of paying for a claim you make. MCE didn't ask me for proof (or a mate on his gixxer, old one to be fair :lol:). IIRC YC was with Carol Nash when he was restricted. They didn't ask him.

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they havent asked for proof ...
In the event of a claim they would though ...
850 pounds FPTF

20 years old
3 points SP30
0 ncb
1 Claim for total loss

Re: 33bhp Dyno Resutls
 

If you fit a restricted ECU, then you don't have to worry. Suzuki sold the part as 33bhp and if produces more it's their fault and not yours.

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also if i say the cert came with the bike they cant do me for fraud ? becuase the cert isnt a leagal document anyways

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IT is a ECU and it proberly is 33bhp but my End can is making the diffrence .

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That might be true if the bike's exactly how it left the factory, but it's not. Suzuki would find a way to wriggle out, my guess would be for that reason.

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Simply don't worry about it...your bike has the restricted ECU and with the 33.5bhp dyno you have, they won't take your bike and licence away on the matter of half a horsepower when you can simply say "Dyno's at not 100% accurate"..

Joshmac : Yeah probably would.. TANK RISERS I BLAME THOSE..or a bellypan that adds 3bhp to all models. :x

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its 33.99 lol . but hey i guess i wont know till somthing happens . cheers

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I was going to correct him, but I thought I'd better keep it to myself :lol:

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;)

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Hindle a tip for you. Stick in the full power ECU and just make sure you don't crash or get caught speeding then you won't have to worry about all this. ;)

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lol . tempted but not worth the trouble it would cause lol

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Speaking from experience? :lol:

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Yeah it was 33.something couldn't remember and couldn't be arsed going back and then retyping. :p Near enough :safe: