Mechanical Help Please!
 

Driving home tonight (its a 20 mile trip) started to notice it was running like a dog, it had lost alot of power and was making really load flitering noises (hard to explain) loader than normal anyway! Now I only noticed with like 3 miles to go, so I dont know how long this had been going for as I had iPod in. Stopped and had a look (for what?.. I dont know!!) then got back on and drove really low revs home. Now I have just looked at the oil level and there seems to be no oil, havent had a proper look though. But I would have presumed the dash would have warned me before it ran out? Could this be my problem? Sorry its lso vague. Cant exactly make a diagnostic with the crap info i'v given!

Help would be very appreciated! Aran

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Now you've made it home and turned the bike off, has any oil appeared in the sight window?

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None at all! Are these symptoms of running without oil?!

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The light is for oil pressure and not level, that's what the sight glass is for, I'd guess it's knocking from the crack, that'll be a new lump probably.

Cheers Mark.

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Ah savage! Cant I just put oil in? Surely it wouldnt even tick over if it was completly empty?

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Good evening.


Sadly the oil light on an SV is a pressure light, & not a level indicator.

I suspect that your engine has knackered big end bearings, get some oil in it, & see how it sounds.

Alternatively, It could be one of the camchain tensioners. Without hearing it, it's difficult to say.


Cheers.

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My only hope now is to fill it with oil. Would you recomend I take out the plugs and spray some down there?

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Nope. just get the bike to a normal oil level in the sight glass and see how it sounds. its probably shagged though. regular checks = important.

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It'll make little difference if you put oil down the bores apart from making it harder to start, fill it to the correct level and start it up, if as Stewart said it's a cam chain tensioner, then you're a very lucky chap, back it off and reset it, if that doesn't work, remove it and check it's working freely.

However if it's a knocking noise coming from low down in the engine, then it's probably the crank, and no amount of oil is going to fix it, whilst you can change a crank, it's normally more cost effective to replace the engine with a good secondhand one.

Cheers Mark.

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:(
If all is screwed. How much will I be expecting to pay for a new engine?

Damn... I checked the other day aswell and thought ahh it'l be fine!

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prices range from a couple of hundred to about £650 or so, depending on age & mileage, it is possible to fit the earlier (curvy) engine bottom end as well.

Cheers Mark.

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FFS! :@ Only myself to blame.

Thanks for your help. I'l let you know how I get on.

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Oh... what oil do I need to buy?

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10/40 semi motorbike oil

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Would it be worth selling as it is? What could I expect for it?

As motor would be £500
and labour another £400

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judgement call really, the sv engine is a fairly easy one to change yourself, so That's what I'd be doing, but you maybe right if you're paying garage prices to have it fitted.

You're going to take a hit on a bike with an engine problem as potential buyers will presume it'll need an engine change and expect to pay accordingly.

Cheers Mark.

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Hmmm. As you can tell I have no mechanical skills, so wouldnt have a chance at changing the engine! Maybe someone would be kind enough to give me a hand on here, im expecting it to take at least a day?

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We don't know what bike it is.
I'd bet it'd work out about the same loss unless you swap the engine yaself.

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new engine £500 labour free no trouble to swap an engine your local-ish if you need a hand sorting it out let us know.

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K6 650 pictured. Pretty standard except micron and black screen. Dent in tank and a couple of scratches on fairing. paid £3k 4 months ago

:) Sunshine that would be top stuff if I could arrange to get an engine!

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Ahh, can't see avatars. I'd say about £2k maybe even less.
Best get a new engine!

p.s P O W E R : petrol,oil,water,electrics,rubber (and pressures). Things you should check before setting off.

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First thing you should try is look to see if the problem is fixable might save you some cash.

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& Chain

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Yeh well all I can do is add oil. Its lost some power, so sounds like its beyond saving. But I can hope!

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well let us know if you want me to take a look, do you have paddock stands?

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Thanks m8 will do and just a rear one.

If anyone stumbles across an engine for sale would greatfull if you'd let me know!!

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If you checked it and it was fine or had oil a few days ago, its not likley to have ran that dry. Get some oil in it and take it to someone who can diagnose the problem even it is running like ****e it may be a coincidence and the lack of power is electrical or something else.

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Hi Noble Ox, was searchin the flea bay, found these:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Suzuki-SV650S-...item5d26429c9f

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Suzuki-SV650S-...item5ad1d650b5

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Suzuki-SV650-S...item48361a05f6

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2007-K7-SV650-...item1c0d9a9c50

theres loads on the bay, have a butchers :P

Ben.

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Ta for the links!
Would probs get a better price if I got it off here?

With the oil, do I just poor the new oil in. Or is it more complicated than that?

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Doh! yep, sorry I'm in car mode

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:neutral:


Pour the oil through the fillup bit on the right hand side of the bike (undo the screw, pour oil in until you can see it between the lines on the window).

Wait, you know you're supposed to check the oil when the bike's off the side stand, right?

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Sorry where is the fillup bit on the bike?

Yes! But I was waiting for the bike to tell me there was no oil... bad mistake! I presumed the oil light/display on the dash actually had a perpose!

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Re the cam chain tensioners dont the K4 > have oil adjusted tensioners? so would they need resetting manualy? if it were to be the tensioners that is

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Oil...

make sure the bike is upright and not on the sidestand....
get some else to sit on it on the bike with both feet on the ground.
Check oil level through the sight glass as you might not have done this when you checked the oil level last time.
then fill to the bottom line, wait 2 minutes, then fill above it say half way, wait again, then fill to just under the top line or on the top line. No more than that.

hope you get it sorted quickly and cheaply.

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it's located on the engine on a bulge(clutch cover) in front of your right foot when sat on the bike. Usually a black plastic cap that just unscrews (up from the oil level window)

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ok ta. off 2 halfords now!

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Get semi synthetic and not cheap crap.

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a biker who doesnt know what where how much oil???,,,read the manual ;)..sarcasm i know, but in my day everyone said RTFM:D...back on a serious note, try filling with oil before buying an engine...if u do buy an engine make sure its a runner;)

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get semi synthetic 10w40 MOTORCYCLE oil

maybe too late...

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was it raining ? Did you ride through Puddles?

do you have a fender extender? (plastic extender on the front mud guard..)
when was the last time your bike was serviced?

just some ramdom questions....