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SoulKiss 23-11-09 11:22 AM

Got an iPhone, had to Jailbreak it to get it do do what you, rather than Steve wanted to do?
 
Check your security settings and change the SSH root password.

There's a nasty out there so if you have a Jailbroken iPhone, make sure you changed the default password.

kwak zzr 23-11-09 11:24 AM

Re: Got an iPhone, had to Jailbreak it to get it do do what you, rather than Steve wanted to do?
 
what do you mean? i'll be changing to an iphone shortly as my 02 contract is due to renew.

fizzwheel 23-11-09 11:34 AM

Re: Got an iPhone, had to Jailbreak it to get it do do what you, rather than Steve wanted to do?
 
"Jailbreak" means you unlock it to get full access to all the settings and config that the phone company / apple would rather you didnt...

Have a google for it, the virus problem that Soulkiss talks about is well documented.

SoulKiss 23-11-09 11:36 AM

Re: Got an iPhone, had to Jailbreak it to get it do do what you, rather than Steve wanted to do?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kwak zzr (Post 2102750)
what do you mean? i'll be changing to an iphone shortly as my 02 contract is due to renew.

Android phones (HTC Hero) are what all the cool kids are using these days...

kwak zzr 23-11-09 11:36 AM

Re: Got an iPhone, had to Jailbreak it to get it do do what you, rather than Steve wanted to do?
 
arr didnt know that was called "jailbreak" lol i did this with my N95 for free sat nav :)

Drew Carey 23-11-09 11:48 AM

Re: Got an iPhone, had to Jailbreak it to get it do do what you, rather than Steve wanted to do?
 
There are a few benefits of jailbreaking the iphone, but only really if your an advanced user and want to do stuff like tethering (which you can now do through O2 anyway, but used to only be possible if you jailbreaked your phone). Its a phone at the end of the day, which is what I use mine for.....and music. Anything else.....I use a computer like normal people?!?!?!?

wyrdness 23-11-09 11:55 AM

Re: Got an iPhone, had to Jailbreak it to get it do do what you, rather than Steve wanted to do?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kwak zzr (Post 2102750)
what do you mean? i'll be changing to an iphone shortly as my 02 contract is due to renew.

This only affects iPhones that have been 'jailbroken'. That means that you can install software that hasn't been approved by Apple. Some people have installed something called 'ssh' (secure shell) and have not bothered to change the administrator password. This gives anybody on the internet complete control over their phone. The technical term for anybody who installs ssh and doesn't change the password is a 'moron'.

Since these morons have given complete control of their phone to absolutely anybody, it's hardly surprising that people are taking advantage.

There are very few reasons why anybody would need to install ssh on their phone. I can think of one, but it requires some quite technical knowledge, that most people don't possess, and anyone who does possess that level of knowledge should know to change the password.

I suspect that most of the victims are people who thought that it would be cool to jailbreak their phone, without actually understanding what they were installing. For the vast majority of people, it isn't really necessary.

hindle8907 23-11-09 11:56 AM

Re: Got an iPhone, had to Jailbreak it to get it do do what you, rather than Steve wanted to do?
 
When you jailbreak your iphone you can customise it and other kool stuff and you dont have to pay them silly prices for apps as you can download them for free.

The default password threat as been around for a while now but cheers for the Heads up SK, not eveyone knows. :)

SoulKiss 23-11-09 12:48 PM

Re: Got an iPhone, had to Jailbreak it to get it do do what you, rather than Steve wanted to do?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hindle8907 (Post 2102804)
When you jailbreak your iphone you can customise it and other kool stuff and you dont have to pay them silly prices for apps as you can download them for free.

The default password threat as been around for a while now but cheers for the Heads up SK, not eveyone knows. :)

No need to thank me, I see this as more a Nelson Munce style "Ha-Ha", with a side order of "I told you so"

:)

fastdruid 23-11-09 09:01 PM

Re: Got an iPhone, had to Jailbreak it to get it do do what you, rather than Steve wanted to do?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wyrdness (Post 2102802)
This only affects iPhones that have been 'jailbroken'. That means that you can install software that hasn't been approved by Apple. Some people have installed something called 'ssh' (secure shell)

<cough>sshd</cough>

ssh is fine...

Druid

Bluefish 23-11-09 09:05 PM

Re: Got an iPhone, had to Jailbreak it to get it do do what you, rather than Steve wanted to do?
 
if you jailbrake it does this mean you don't have to use itunes, and that you can set ringtones, from your tunes?

fizzwheel 23-11-09 09:39 PM

Re: Got an iPhone, had to Jailbreak it to get it do do what you, rather than Steve wanted to do?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bluefishman (Post 2103506)
and that you can set ringtones, from your tunes?

You dont need to jailbreak your iphone to create a custom ringtone.. basically create an AAC format file copy of the tune that you want. Then make a copy of it. Rename it so the extension is M4R and then off the file menu in itunes add the file back to your library again.

At the moment this I have found only seems to work if the piece of music that you are setting as a ringtone isnt one you have purchased via the itune store though.

If you google for it, theres better instructions on the web that those I have written above. But the process worked for me...

You cant set a custom message alert tone though unless you have jailbroken your phone...

Bluefish 23-11-09 09:50 PM

Re: Got an iPhone, had to Jailbreak it to get it do do what you, rather than Steve wanted to do?
 
hi fizz, yes i have read about this tried it once and couldn't get it to work, mind you that was probably me doing it wrong, and i have just changed my browser to firefox from ie, and found out i have been spelling probably wrongly for ages, a spell checker is a wonderful thing, haha i couldn't spell wonderful either, one l not two it seems.

thulfi 23-11-09 11:19 PM

Re: Got an iPhone, had to Jailbreak it to get it do do what you, rather than Steve wanted to do?
 
hey...well timed thread. I received my new iphone 3gs on Monday (loving the motorcycle ringtone that comes pre-installed). Anyway, so I see that if I go to settings, and wanna set up tethering, it asks me to contact orange (where no doubt I will be charged more).
If I jailbreak my phone will I be able to tether to my hearts content for free or will orange find out?

Also, does jailbreaking void iphone warranties, and is there a way of 'unjailbreaking' so to speak, perhaps by restoring to factory setting?

Quote:

Originally Posted by fizzwheel (Post 2103558)
You dont need to jailbreak your iphone to create a custom ringtone.. basically create an AAC format file copy of the tune that you want. Then make a copy of it. Rename it so the extension is M4R and then off the file menu in itunes add the file back to your library again

also I did exactly this, and itunes recognised it as a ringtone. Dragged and dropped into my iphone..'synced' and all that, but it just does not wanna show up on my ringtone screen in settings when i use my iphone!! Any ideas?

thanks

fizzwheel 23-11-09 11:31 PM

Re: Got an iPhone, had to Jailbreak it to get it do do what you, rather than Steve wanted to do?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thulfi (Post 2103698)
and is there a way of 'unjailbreaking' so to speak, perhaps by restoring to factory setting?

I believe you just "restore" it via Itunes and it takes the jailbreak off.

Quote:

Originally Posted by thulfi (Post 2103698)
also I did exactly this, and itunes recognised it as a ringtone. Dragged and dropped into my iphone..'synced' and all that, but it just does not wanna show up on my ringtone screen in settings when i use my iphone!! Any ideas? thanks

I've got a ringtone that I want to make that does just this. It shows in Itunes as a ringtone but the phone doesnt see it. I suspect some kind of copy protection malarky going on... I'll keep chipping away at it and see if I can sort it out, if I do I will post up on here what I did, but dont hold your breath that I sort it out...

beabert 23-11-09 11:55 PM

Re: Got an iPhone, had to Jailbreak it to get it do do what you, rather than Steve wanted to do?
 
Quote:

Android phones (HTC Hero) are what all the cool kids are using these days...
No, i'd say those who dont have more money than sense are using non iphone phones lol, and want a phone they can actually multitask on properly.

The only thing the iphone is, is cool, and that it does do well, for a huge premium.

thulfi 23-11-09 11:58 PM

Re: Got an iPhone, had to Jailbreak it to get it do do what you, rather than Steve wanted to do?
 
thanks...i'll try a few others and see if the same thing happens, as it was the first and only ringtone I tried.

Any ideas on the tethering though? Perhaps networks just aren't banking on the fact that I can jailbreak and tether away, or are they?!

Any cool advantages to jailbreaking (free apps I believe was mentioned)? Downsides (other than that dodgy program that gives people control over your phone)?!

Drew Carey 24-11-09 12:01 AM

Re: Got an iPhone, had to Jailbreak it to get it do do what you, rather than Steve wanted to do?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fizzwheel (Post 2103710)

I've got a ringtone that I want to make that does just this. It shows in Itunes as a ringtone but the phone doesnt see it. I suspect some kind of copy protection malarky going on... I'll keep chipping away at it and see if I can sort it out, if I do I will post up on here what I did, but dont hold your breath that I sort it out...

Is it under 30 seconds long? As iphone wont recognise anything longer.

thulfi 24-11-09 12:03 AM

Re: Got an iPhone, had to Jailbreak it to get it do do what you, rather than Steve wanted to do?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by beabert (Post 2103727)
No, i'd say those who dont have more money than sense are using non iphone phones lol, and want a phone they can actually multitask on properly.

The only thing the iphone is, is cool, and that it does do well, for a huge premium.

Well I think it all depends on what you want from a phone, and how you gel with the interface. I had an ipod touch, and just got sooo used to it as my music player. The iphone (which I got in 32gb cos I have loadsa music and wouldn't have bothered otherwise) has combo'd phone + music. I know others store and play music, but when youve ipodding for so long, and you have your itunes all set up in genres, etc, it was hard to say no to the iphone.

Aand I think people who aren't too big on the iphones haven't experienced some of the reaally cool apps that are available. Ive messed about on a few blackberries and they're just sooo boring (though Im sure they're good for the businessy sort)! Plus the iphone has a stinking 3.2megapixel camera, but pfft, don't really matter - not my thing. Ipod + phone = less baggage in my pocket, and less charger hassle!

thulfi 24-11-09 12:04 AM

Re: Got an iPhone, had to Jailbreak it to get it do do what you, rather than Steve wanted to do?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Drew Carey (Post 2103730)
Is it under 30 seconds long? As iphone wont recognise anything longer.


noo way? will try it right now!

Drew Carey 24-11-09 12:06 AM

Re: Got an iPhone, had to Jailbreak it to get it do do what you, rather than Steve wanted to do?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thulfi (Post 2103732)
noo way? will try it right now!

Wayyyyyyyyyyyyyy.... (sorry, couldn't resist).

PS, good bit of software is "techlogg.com ToneShop" for converting anything to ringtones.

thulfi 24-11-09 12:12 AM

Re: Got an iPhone, had to Jailbreak it to get it do do what you, rather than Steve wanted to do?
 
lol waaay indeed!

thanks mate...problem sorted!!

thulfi 24-11-09 01:14 AM

Re: Got an iPhone, had to Jailbreak it to get it do do what you, rather than Steve wanted to do?
 
as in any app for free?? Even the £50 sat nav ones?!

thulfi 24-11-09 01:16 AM

Re: Got an iPhone, had to Jailbreak it to get it do do what you, rather than Steve wanted to do?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by simulateu1 (Post 2103756)
your iphone you can customise it and other kool stuff and you dont have to pay them silly prices for apps as you can download them for free.

lol. hold on. you joined today, and that was your first post? bot?!

hindle8907 24-11-09 07:13 AM

Re: Got an iPhone, had to Jailbreak it to get it do do what you, rather than Steve wanted to do?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by simulateu1 (Post 2103756)
your iphone you can customise it and other kool stuff and you dont have to pay them silly prices for apps as you can download them for free.

Quote:

Originally Posted by thulfi (Post 2103759)
lol. hold on. you joined today, and that was your first post? bot?!

WTF lol that post is mine look ... lol


Quote:

Originally Posted by hindle8907 (Post 2102804)
When you jailbreak your iphone you can customise it and other kool stuff and you dont have to pay them silly prices for apps as you can download them for free.

The default password threat as been around for a while now but cheers for the Heads up SK, not eveyone knows. :)

And yes mate, any app even the ones that cost $$$$'s

madnlooney 24-11-09 09:36 AM

Re: Got an iPhone, had to Jailbreak it to get it do do what you, rather than Steve wanted to do?
 
also a new worm been annoyed by F-secure.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8373739.stm

TheOnlyNemesis 24-11-09 10:47 AM

Re: Got an iPhone, had to Jailbreak it to get it do do what you, rather than Steve wanted to do?
 
that virus is a good thing i think, anyone who jailbreaks their phone and leaves the root password deserves to have their phone messed up.

SoulKiss 24-11-09 10:51 AM

Re: Got an iPhone, had to Jailbreak it to get it do do what you, rather than Steve wanted to do?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheOnlyNemesis (Post 2103918)
that virus is a good thing i think, anyone who jailbreaks their phone and leaves the root password deserves to have their phone messed up.

Anyone who just bought an iPhone because its Shiney, and then Jailbroke it without understanding what they were doing, or even any real need, except the only thing cooler than an iPhone is a Jailbroken iPhone deserves it.

I still dont understand why anyone would buy something that doesn't do what they want it to do without needing to be seriously messed around with - and thats from someone who ENJOYS seriously messing around with stuff (see my Custom Firmware PSP's for example, or my hacked to use the Nokia Firmware instead of the T-Mobile Firmware N95) but in those examples they STILL did what I wanted them to do out of the box...

madnlooney 24-11-09 11:10 AM

Re: Got an iPhone, had to Jailbreak it to get it do do what you, rather than Steve wanted to do?
 
tbh i dont think anyone deserves to have there phone messed up.

thulfi 24-11-09 01:26 PM

Re: Got an iPhone, had to Jailbreak it to get it do do what you, rather than Steve wanted to do?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SoulKiss (Post 2103923)
they STILL did what I wanted them to do out of the box...

as does my iphone. But why not do more if you can right? Apps are great, but freebies are even greater!

wyrdness 24-11-09 01:43 PM

Re: Got an iPhone, had to Jailbreak it to get it do do what you, rather than Steve wanted to do?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SoulKiss (Post 2103923)
Anyone who just bought an iPhone because its Shiney, and then Jailbroke it without understanding what they were doing, or even any real need, except the only thing cooler than an iPhone is a Jailbroken iPhone deserves it.

I still dont understand why anyone would buy something that doesn't do what they want it to do without needing to be seriously messed around with - and thats from someone who ENJOYS seriously messing around with stuff (see my Custom Firmware PSP's for example, or my hacked to use the Nokia Firmware instead of the T-Mobile Firmware N95) but in those examples they STILL did what I wanted them to do out of the box...

In the case of the iPhone, I think that there are two particularly strong reasons why people choose to jailbreak their phones. These are to enable tethering without paying network tethering fees, and to install pirated apps. In other words, to get something for free, which you would otherwise have to pay for, rather than to enable any new functionality.

In the case of tethering, it's perhaps justifiable. If you've got a mobile data plan, then why should they charge more if you're using your phone as a modem, so long as you stay within your limit. I think that most people who are installing sshd on their phones are doing so to enable tethering for free, rather than paying for it.

If people are jailbreaking for piracy, then I've little sympathy, as most iPhone apps only cost a couple of quid anyway.

fizzwheel 24-11-09 03:02 PM

Re: Got an iPhone, had to Jailbreak it to get it do do what you, rather than Steve wanted to do?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wyrdness (Post 2104092)
as most iPhone apps only cost a couple of quid anyway.

Also theres a hell of a lot of free apps as well....

SoulKiss 24-11-09 03:23 PM

Re: Got an iPhone, had to Jailbreak it to get it do do what you, rather than Steve wanted to do?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by madnlooney (Post 2103941)
tbh i dont think anyone deserves to have there phone messed up.

ignorance always deserves to be rewarded in an appropriate fashion...

fastdruid 24-11-09 07:22 PM

Re: Got an iPhone, had to Jailbreak it to get it do do what you, rather than Steve wanted to do?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wyrdness (Post 2104092)
In the case of the iPhone, I think that there are two particularly strong reasons why people choose to jailbreak their phones. These are to enable tethering without paying network tethering fees, and to install pirated apps. In other words, to get something for free, which you would otherwise have to pay for, rather than to enable any new functionality.

In the case of tethering, it's perhaps justifiable. If you've got a mobile data plan, then why should they charge more if you're using your phone as a modem, so long as you stay within your limit. I think that most people who are installing sshd on their phones are doing so to enable tethering for free, rather than paying for it.

If people are jailbreaking for piracy, then I've little sympathy, as most iPhone apps only cost a couple of quid anyway.

Er there is a third option and that is to install apps that apple does not like or want.

Apple controls your Iphone totally and utterly, it chooses how and from where you install every app and how they work, if you do not want that then jailbreak is the way round it. Personally I refuse to buy one as I'd have issues with apples control over it and the need to jailbreak it to get the functionality I want.

Druid

Kalessin 24-11-09 11:16 PM

Re: Got an iPhone, had to Jailbreak it to get it do do what you, rather than Steve wanted to do?
 
Plus, jailbreaking is the only way to install your own SMS alert.

SoulKiss 25-11-09 09:53 AM

Re: Got an iPhone, had to Jailbreak it to get it do do what you, rather than Steve wanted to do?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fastdruid (Post 2104540)
Personally I refuse to buy one as I'd have issues with apples control over it and the need to jailbreak it to get the functionality I want.

I always knew I liked you for a reason :)


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