Blipping the throttle
 

After reading Amanda's thread and having a talk with DarrenSV650S do you blip the throttle?

If so why?

If not why?

I understand about the forcing the engine speed to match wheel speed etc but is it really going to affect the bike that bad?

I dont, dont know why, just never have.

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Much smoother down change with the revs matching the road speed. Saves on clutch wear.

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Smoother and quicker down changes. Also sounds cool and makes me a riding God.

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No. CBA'd.

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Only cos you're not a riding God........and you can't do it.

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Yes

Not doing it on a litre twin with knobbly tyres = backing it in even when you don't want to :eek:

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You taught me all I know, master:D

PS - that actually is true.

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This was discussed last year. A few interesting comments.

http://forums.sv650.org/showthread.php?t=111176

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Cause it sounds good lol. It's kinda to the clutch and it's quicker.same I'm cars too.

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No, if you are gental, relaxed and careful enough with the clutch I don't find it neccessary ....

Having said that, I think I ride at a lot lowere revs than many ..... many are changing down a gear at 7000 revs .... me, more like 3000 revs .....

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I am a convert :cool:

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Sometimes because I like the noise but never ever to 'match revs with road speed'. Why you'd have to be some kind of riding God to do that.

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Never realy felt the need. Maybe that says something about my riding?:confused:

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AFAIK it sorts that out itself (sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong) definately makes for an easier smoother gear change :cool:

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ka pow!!

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Even though I have a slipper clutch, I always do it as it is smoother and seems to keep the back-end more settled.

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Saves gearbox too, if you don't blip you get a "clack" as the dog teeth mesh which you don't want. Only needs a slight blip to get them to slide in nicely... then you can be as brutal with the clutch as you want to make it slide if you wish...

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Hmm, thinking about giving the "Blip" thing a go. So what's the procedure anyway? How many revs are you aiming for with your "blip"? Is it a tiny fraction of the throttle "blip", or half throttle "blip"? Is this something thats really more relevant to twins, or is it worth mastering for IL4's?

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Just a fraction enough to make revs shoot up 4 or 5k. What 750 is yours, if it is new EFI one or carbed something near right it will only need a fraction of throttle.

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yea i do but for no reason what so ever :cool:

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Yes, to make shifting down as smooth as possible, though with the slipper clutch I perhaps dont really need to any more. :)

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I still blipped even with a slipper, its smoother to blip

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Its shocking how super smooth the slipper clutch is on this thing, utterly brilliant. I do still blip, as it usually means that if you need to you can get back on the power easier, if you need to. :D

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Whilst the clutch is in, while downshifting, blip the throttle.

It's worth it on any bike imho - however how much you have to blip depends very much on the engine. On my gfs old 125cc 4 stroke single, you had to pretty much whack the throttle wide open, wait a while for the revs to rise, then drop the clutch. If you were riding up hill with WOT, and you needed to downshift for power, you just didn't move your right hand at all.

Anyway on something with more than a teaspoon of displacement, its just a little blip or you're into rev limiter territory very quickly.

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All the time

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+1, blip when I'm in a silly mood and want to make a nice noise, or in some situations with a pillion on board, but only when necessary to smooth certain down changes out and avoid any helmet banging. Sometimes do it when I'm tired 'cos I realise I've changed down a bit too early, riding tends to go to pot through impatience towards the end of a long journey.

Anyway my SV has a special type of slipper clutch, for the very odd occasion where I might risk a locked back wheel, it's called a 'left hand'. I'd have to be trying to get somewhere in a hurry though to be changing down aggressively enough to risk a locked wheel.

Also don't see the need to change down gear at high revs anyway, it's easy enough to block change two gears and match revs & road speed if you need higher revs and more power when you come back on the throttle.

I use the brakes to slow down too, smoother, suspension settles quicker and the bike rolls into the next manoeuvre nicer, and less stress on engine, gearbox, chain & sprockets. Pads & disks are cheaper than drive chain components and clutches.

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So is the cheapest slipper still way over 500?

I never blipped on the 125, never needed too, on the ride back on my sv650 i crapped myself when i first shifted down, needless to say i made sure the revs were low and the clutch slow for the rest of the journey lol.

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Yes and even they don't work without modification.
http://forums.13x.com/showthread.php?t=223518 (monster-thread I know, but lots of useful info. Pay attention to how TWF2 modifies clutch on page 30odd).

IMO you don't need one. They might cover up a problem but there are plenty really fast guys on minitwins without them. Spend the money on petrol and tyres!

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Thanks, too expensive for me them, wont let me browse past page 30.

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Me neither, dunno what's up with it but the problem and solution are well described anyway.

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Iwent on one of those Bikesafe things, blipping down to the village hall in the middle of nowhere, and the copper running it made some point about how bad it was - the manual says to blip! I only do it for the sake of the noise now, if you don't match the revs than it makes everything un-necessarily shonky - but when you get it right it's a massive ego extension!

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All the time.
Rev match every downshift without even thinking about it now.
It's just how to ride the SV.

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Yep.

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Thought I would be a "sometimes". Thought I may be a non-blipper especially when not Schwantzing into corners or arriving at the start line (traffic lights).

Riding in this fine morn, no I'm a "All The Time".

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All the time, to match the revs on the downshift. Ok you don't exactly 'match' them but you can get pretty close and it makes the shift a lot, lot smoother. The dog teeth just go together much more smoothly when they're rotating at a similar speed rather than several hundred (or thousand) rpm apart.

I learnt to do it when learning to drive a car. It's just smoother and easier on all the internal components - I think it's known as 'mechanical sympathy'. Believe the technique itself dates from gearboxes without syncromesh, when you had to double-clutch and rev-match on each change - or it simply wouldn't go in. I used to have a '72 Triumph Spitfire as a weekend car, and that had no synchro on 1st gear - so you had to double-clutch and rev-match when you went down into 1st.

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Always blip the throttle to match revs to speed, less wear and tear on the bike and safer because you're less likely to lock the rear wheel.

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same as most to match the revs and stop the rear locking up.

also makes a great sound with a decent can on the bike.

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I agree ......... but lets get it clear ....

There is raising the revs slightly to match the gearchange .... which is good ...

and then there is blipping the revs really high, and trying to catch the revs at the right level when they are falling ....... which is just about making you feel like like a driving god ..... and in the other thread .... should be another 20% worth of chav :o

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I thought I understood LK-SV's post... the difference between those who blip for all of the right reasons and the chavs (whatever that means - I am still guessing) who blip to make a lot of noise or some other reason known only to them, like the kid who pulls up to a set of traffic lights after working the gears at 10,000 rpm and looks over as if to say "look how clever I am". I look over, shake my head then proceed to ignore them as I mutter some derogatory comment under my breath about the phallic shape of their head.