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Anyone out there know the rules of the Redundancy Game?

Been told that one of the jobs in my dept has to go, looking to make it as painful as possible for them if the pick me.

So, what pitfalls can they fall into that could transition this from reduncancy to unfair dismissal?

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Depends how they choice!

We always use a scoring system whoever has the lowest or even negative is the one who goes. You have a right to see their reason's for selection and how they reached the final decision.

If they ask you to go straight away your notice payment has to be paid tax free as well. You can get a larger notice period payment as well for example I'm on 1 month but as i have work for 5 years here i am actually entitled to 5 weeks notice payment as well as SRP.

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Go and ask them what they Redundancy criteria is. Also you may well find you get put onto a "Consultancy Period" where they go through working out who will go.

At our place everybody that was in the teams that people were going to be made redundant from got "scored" they were awarded points for all sorts of things, from Skill set to time keeping, the person with the lowest amount of points was made redundant.

IIRC the panel that did the scoring was made up of management and a representative from HR in order to ensure that the scoring wasnt made personal by a member of management.

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been there 3 times in my working life David..

feel for you mate- espesh this time of year..

Go and be open and honest with them ask what the situation is.. maybe you might want to take it with an anhancement and move on yourself- new beginings etc.

its always a "pool" and points.

but we all know they can manipulate it and cover their asses to get rid of who they want.

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sleep with the boss and then blackmail them ;)

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Does it work? lol :o

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Sleep with the boss's wife, take pictures, then blackmail him. That way you screw him over several ways

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Well I thought you were not entiltled to any payments of the first 4 years you are at a company . I know this was the case when I did my Apprenticeship in case they had to make Apprentices redundant . Apprenticeships were for 4 years you see . Maybe this is on a company by company basis so I would go and ask your HR lot what the deal is .

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David having just gone through the process our company reduced by 205 people with some VR's and a few compulsory redundancies. You cannot tie in Redundancy and unfair dismissal in the same category.
Your company will have a process that they will follow which has to show that it is fair to all emplyees. We looked at a scoring system which included Appraisal grades from 2008. Any Disciplinary notices in 2009. persons competency level at completing the new role and evidence to show they were competent. As a manager I graded ,y team members which was then reviewed by my boss and then HR before sign off.

Genrally the rule is minimum 1 months notice period tax free but this is the legal minimum. Normally it tends to be 3 months and a multiplier for each year worked based on age eg 3.2 weeks for age 20-30 for each years service.

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Your company should have a documented redundancy policy and procedures guide which you're entitled too

I'm currently on my 30day consultancy and going through selection, such fun...

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oh yeah 30 day consultation notice period for 1-100 people and 90 day for greater than 100. we finished ours on Monday!

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Any port in a storm ;)

I bet even soulkiss would look great to me after 30 pints and in the dark from 300 yards ;)


Although I have slept with women with better beards:rolleyes:

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Yet....:D

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why dont you be really mature and make the seniors some cups of tea inc complimentary bogies :D might not keep you your job, but at least you'll leave with a little smile in your mouth.

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I wish it was that generous :rolleyes:
Notice is as per your contract and will almost definitely be taxable, and you may have to work all of it.
As for 3.2 weeks per year? Sorry DB but it's only half a week per year for the youngest of your age group, rising to a whole week for those aged 22 and one & a half weeks over 41. Oh and the real kick in the teeth is your weekly pay is capped at £380. :roll:

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It's worth pointing out that many employers will actually offer better terms than that, and places can differ in their payouts and criertia for selection quite a lot (I just had to interview for my job for example).

Rather than asking the rabble here, check out with your manager/HR dept what the situation is there.

Good luck SK!

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...and a little hair in theirs ;)

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:winner:

Although on a serious note, I think a trip to the big bosses or HR or whoever deals with that area is in order.

Obtain as much information (which I believe they are bound to disclose) and make sure that you are the one who complies with it all.

Taking something to Industrial Tribunal is difficult, takes a long time and requires hard evidence of deliberate attempts to make your working life hell so that you will leave, Im sure Ed will give you the legal gumph but a possible redundancy would probably not qualify for this.

Big kisses Soully, dont worry about it you are a skilled man, Im sure somewhere will snap you up if it ever came to that!

(Looking forward to the RHPS night btw, Ive sent some dates to you and Vixis xxx)