Scotland and Wales
 

If these two places (I baulk at calling them countries) are so great, then why are so many of their proud sons and daughters living in England and not in the Nirvana they claim their homeland to be?

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i don't see the point in them tbh.

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Scotland and Wales, or Scotsmen and the Welsh?

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scotland and wales just call it england and be done it's connected to it's **** and noggin anyway.

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Clearly the grass is greener elsewhere than the green green grass of home.
Actually I think i'd struggle after all that grass too.

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I'll bite.

Scotland is great, but it's the Scots that make it. They're superb wherever they go. That is why the British Empire was built on the back of Scotsmen and Scottish inventions (Television, pneumatic tyre, tarmac, the list goes on and on)

England became part of the Scottish Crown, but their jealousy never stopped :p

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Typical ar$ehole comments that make the english the most hated nationality after the yanks in the whole world.

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:smt098

Oh and Merry Christmas

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Fine places to live, but remember it was the Scots who created the wealth for England (who squandered it very quickly), and created great countries like Canada and the continental USA. The history of Canada and the US is steeped with scots. That's why so many north americans and canadians come over to Scotland to retrace their roots, and why so many scots leave the UK for Canada and the US.

It's their nature that makes them liked and respected all over the world..

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Good job it isn't 2010, as you'd be struggling already Lozzo :rolleyes:

http://forums.sv650.org/showthread.php?t=144398

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Television - suggest you google for Paul Nipkow, who invented the whole television process before Baird was born. The 'Nipkow Disc' was the key to Baird's work. Nipkow doesn't sound like a very Scottish name to me.

Pneumatic tyres - Dunlop's pneumatic tyre patent was declared invalid because a man called Thompson declared prior art. In other words, Dunlop didn't invent the pneumatic tyre, someone beat him to it.

Tarmac - Macadam developed a method of sizing stone to use for road building, but the act of adding tar to the stones to bind them together and make the road harder wearing was invented by an American. So Tarmac is an American invention, not Scottish?

All these marvellous (non-Scottish) inventions were patented long after Britain had built an Empire

A comment to be treated with the derision it deserves.

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I'm getting them all in now at the back of 2009, so 2010 can be free of it all.

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everybody loves the english surely the eu seem to really dig us ;)

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I'm sorry, I thought by starting this thread you were displaying a sense of humour; had I know it was just a random xenophobic attack I wouldn't have entered into the spirit of it. :confused:

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nothing to do with not liking their homeland more to do with work.

sorry but why are the english hated all over the world, when the welsh and scottish loved and treated with respect?

anyway. Merry Christmas my fine English neighbour.


oooohhhh and just to add there are thousands of you so called English flocking up here every year as well. you just have to visit places like Livingstone, Glenrothes, Edinburgh and St Andrews to discover this.

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My dad moved down here because there was no work available in the Bellshill area, he suffered more racism from the English than he deserved, bit surprised at you starting a thread like this lozzo mate.

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Thats true, my brother moved up there last year after retiring from the police force, dont know where as we are not speaking:(

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I love Scotland i went there a year last September for the first time in my life and fell in love with it within seconds it is a beautiful place and as for the "Scots" themselves i think they are one of the most friendly of people i have met and trust me i have travelled in quite a few other countries.
I have been back there 3 times within that year and if i had of had more time and money it would of been a lot more than that

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Good and bad wherever you go imo.

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Lozzo, even I don't find this in the least bit funny. A bit of banter between the nations can be had but this is just down right rude.

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mostly true, that is until you become 'familiar' then we will pick a fight. :smt101

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Let me give you a clue, I'm 3/4 Maltese, 1/8 Irish and the other 1/8...
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Jockanese

There's no bloody Welsh in me though :D

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my ancestors are all scot's hence my second name.

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what ? 650 ? :D

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aye look's funny on the birth certificate mind.

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Sometimes the tone isnt right Loz, and the tone in this thread isn't right...

Oh and btw, what about Alexander Graham Bell??

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My surname is from the Cumbria/Dumfries area

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Alexander Fleming too!

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and what about that carneige bloke ? and and what about archie gemmel against the dutch in the er 74 ? world cup

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Why did you start the thread?

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Tough one, because so many others had got there first, but Bell was the first to patent the idea and therefore was able to fight their claims in court and win. He's generally acknowledged to have claimed his telephone system as the first of its kind after countless others had done all the hard work for him.

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I only support two teams, wales & who ever is playing against England
. England hasn't got a true patron saint

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Another of those rare occasions I find myself agreeing with you MBK.



Erm, sorry Lozzo but did you turn 4 yesterday or just had a few too many shandies tonight? This is the kind of comment a kid comes out with. How the heck can you be a quarter anything is beyond me and being a 1/8 of something is even more stupid a comment to make. Hell if some science is believed we are all about 1 billionth African. I find this "mathematical" justification about as useful as a racist who says " i can call him a nig*** if i want cos some of my best friends are black" personally.


A very good question. I cant see any benefit in this thread.

You may as well have not said Welsh and Scots but any other minority or immigrant to this country. Including yourself perhaps since you're 3/4 maltese. If you were born here mate you're as english as they come in my opinion.
Now care to explain what the point of this thread is other than to pi** off a few people for no good reason?

I'm dying to know.

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Everyone hates everyone, except nobody really hates anyone........surely

Is there any major city (let alone country) that is not derided by every other one and then back again for some reason or another?

What seems to be exceptionally English is that as well as this we also like to deride our own little bit of turf as a s***hole and only really become fiercely patriotic when sports are concerned. At which point we get jumped on for being big headed and self aggrandizing.

Perhaps if our national spirit was a little less Bi-polar we would not irritate our neighbours quite so.

I would imagine most of this animosity is just born of Idle pub banter and the human need to band together against a common irritation. It just doesn't go both ways because perhaps England has more of an impact on the lives of the Scottish or Welsh than vice-versa....Even if that does sounds a bit persumptous and chauvinistiv....

On a personal note, i've spent loads of time in Wales and Scotland, loved it (ok 6 weeks on the isle of Skye was a bit much) never had a problem (well except with some scousers in Anglesea, who didn't appreciate being called scousers by a mate of mine - t'was sorted by a pint - thats the British way)

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Oops, someone's bit of a wind up has bit a bit too close to the bone.

C'mon Lozzo, do the right thing and say sorry. Most of us know it was banter but its still upset a few good people.

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Isn't it funny how this thread has switched from "why do Scots all live down here", to all the English suddenly proclaiming "I'm partially Scottish you know"

And if you are partially Scottish then rightly proud of it you should be, just a shame there's always a need to be secretly proud and hide it behind this pretend hatred :D

The Scots are loved by nations all over the world, including the English (secretly).

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you can only be half anything i dont get all this quarter of this and that 1 eighth the other.

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I joke about not loving other nations especially welsh, but my mates missus(who is very nice person) is 100% swansea so its only fun, seriously i take people as i find them regardless of where they come from, as i said earlier in this thread, good and bad wherever you go, there is a lot of english people i meet whom i dont like (not hate) its what makes us all different and sometimes more interesting.

Phil

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As a proud Northern Englishman who's lived in Wales since 1983 (so much more than half my life), all I'm going to say is :smt016

Besides which, there are two Englands.......... the part that is the South East/Home Counties and the good bit that is the rest ;-)

Merry Christmas Lozzo :rolleyes:

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Is it the places you don't like lozzo or the people?, and is England ok for you?, not too wet or cold?.