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AndyBrad 22-02-10 04:43 PM

Chain cleaner?
 
ANYONE USED ONE OF THESE THINGS?

http://www.theultimatefinish.co.uk/m...rc=google-base

Dave20046 22-02-10 05:14 PM

Re: Chain cleaner?
 
bugger, there's a cheaper one that I think darrensv2003 or whatever his name is was recommending - I just can't remember where or what it was called.
maybe worth a pm

AndyBrad 22-02-10 06:19 PM

Re: Chain cleaner?
 
i now theres one kittenmax or something like that that looks similar. im just after something to get the lube on and off without throwing it all over the yard....

scottoiler was fab on the last bike but im going to see how i fair without one..

carternd 22-02-10 06:26 PM

Re: Chain cleaner?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AndyBrad (Post 2190660)

Hmmm, looks interesting. Muc-off chain cleaner is rubbish, I wasted £7 on it.
Paraffin, £6 for 4 litres HERE
http://www.winbuyer.co.uk/cat-113/ke...FZqY2Aodj0tvGw

It seems to be on sale at a lot of garages ATM, I'm sure I saw similar for £5.60 in one.

Also recommended by SV owners manual for cleaning o-ring chains.

Maybe you can put paraffin in the cleaning mechanism. Or use a toothbrush, free from your bathroom.

Are you only using the Triumph for sunny sundays, or all the time. If it's going to see regular/long distance use put the Scottoiler on it!

AndyBrad 22-02-10 08:00 PM

Re: Chain cleaner?
 
hmmm

must be a nice easy device that will clean everything up without it flinging everywhere.

Dave20046 22-02-10 08:04 PM

Re: Chain cleaner?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AndyBrad (Post 2190931)
hmmm

must be a nice easy device that will clean everything up without it flinging everywhere.

There is , you could pm darren he recommended one in another thread.
Then again I just use a rag

Seggons 22-02-10 08:21 PM

Re: Chain cleaner?
 
It's amazing how well a chain comes up with just a pot of paraffin, a Tesco value tooth brush, a rag and some WD40 to polish it up after. http://forums.sv650.org/showpost.php...postcount=1103

fizzwheel 22-02-10 08:28 PM

Re: Chain cleaner?
 
Save your money, 1 x Parafin from B & Q ( Called Parascene ) from the garden section, pack of budget toothbrushes from tesco and your done.

It only goes everywhere if you pour it on the chain. If you use the parafin sparingly it'll be fine and I prefer the toothbrush approach to running it through a proper cleaner as you can check the chain for tightspots etc whilst your scrubbing it with the brush.

IMHO

kwak zzr 22-02-10 08:37 PM

Re: Chain cleaner?
 
parafin £3.99 4ltrs at my local garden center (hollybush j11 M6) does the job quickly and cheaply :)

AndyBrad 22-02-10 09:38 PM

Re: Chain cleaner?
 
just to pop it into perspective after having a chain snap on my (in 5 places) im a bit over zelous about chain cleaning. You see all those pics of before and after chain cleaning? well mine looks like everyonesclean chain before i start cleaning it. bit bad i know but im so scared about it happening again. So something to make it easier is good :)

G 22-02-10 09:43 PM

Re: Chain cleaner?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Seggons (Post 2190984)
It's amazing how well a chain comes up with just a pot of paraffin, a Tesco value tooth brush, a rag and some WD40 to polish it up after. http://forums.sv650.org/showpost.php...postcount=1103

I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure you don't want to be putting wd40 on your chain, it's designed to penetrate and degrease so would really **** your o rings up.

Parafin and re-lube is more than enough.

Seggons 22-02-10 10:04 PM

Re: Chain cleaner?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by G (Post 2191201)
I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure you don't want to be putting wd40 on your chain, it's designed to penetrate and degrease so would really **** your o rings up.

Parafin and re-lube is more than enough.

I've seen it a few times on the org that WD-40 on chains is ok. Some people even clean their chains with it because it contains paraffin I believe but I could be talking balls. :lol:. I just give the the face plates of the chain a quick spray to get any old residue off. Got to keep the blingy chain looking blingy. ;)

carternd 22-02-10 10:09 PM

Re: Chain cleaner?
 
WD-40, use #1345
Dissolving rubber.

Maybe if used instead of KY jelly. If O-rings can take chain lube and all manner of guff from the road surely the nation's favourite tool will be ok. It can't be that virulent a solvent, can it?

dizzyblonde 22-02-10 10:21 PM

Re: Chain cleaner?
 
Always used WD40 to clean my chains. But I don't spray it liberally on the chain I spray it on a rag sparingly, and use elbow grease to scrub. Pristine clean and a nice base to immediately cover with chain lube.

I haven't had a chain fall off from things disintegrating. And neither has Carnivore, who showed me how to clean it properly using WD40. And hes been doing it for eleven years.

On the subject of Muc off, I wouldn't put any of their products near my bikes. The last person I know who used their bike cleaner it did something weird to their headlight lenses!

fizzwheel 22-02-10 10:28 PM

Re: Chain cleaner?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by G (Post 2191201)
I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure you don't want to be putting wd40 on your chain

whether its any good or not for me is a moot point. Its f*cking expensive chain cleaner when parafin does just as good a job and its much much cheaper...

Ed 22-02-10 10:43 PM

Re: Chain cleaner?
 
From this

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1...e/23110008.jpg

to this

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1...e/23110016.jpg

took 4 hours elbow grease, an old toothbrush, and a small bit of kerosene in a jamjar. Our resident chemist A*H told me not to throw out the old kerosene, as it's a solvent - and so the muck sinks to the bottom of the jamjar and you can use the fuel again. So it really is worth giving a go.

dizzyblonde 22-02-10 10:55 PM

Re: Chain cleaner?
 
I would like to say the cheapest cleaner I have found for the gunk on the wheels off the chain is Mr Sheen :-) Magic stuff, old oil glides off the wheel.

Although, if you don't fancy your hands getting dirty, or anywhere near the rear wheel...that SDoc stuff is quite impressive, but darn expensive, but then I didn't pay for it :-)

KeithCRM 22-02-10 11:28 PM

Re: Chain cleaner?
 
My service book recommends Kerosene but couldn't find it at local B&Q etc. Anybody know where it's typically available from?

carternd 23-02-10 12:02 AM

Re: Chain cleaner?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by KeithCRM (Post 2191361)
My service book recommends Kerosene but couldn't find it at local B&Q etc. Anybody know where it's typically available from?

Kerosene is American for paraffin. Garden stores, petrol stations, motor factors, t'interweb.

Oh, and WD-40 beats paraffin in one v. important way. Those filthy smokers are less likely to self-immolate if they find they can't wait until after cleaning if they use it.

yorkie_chris 23-02-10 12:04 AM

Re: Chain cleaner?
 
The local B&Q call it parascene and sell it as fuel for greenhouse heaters.

Or white spirit is pretty similar but a little thinner.

KeithCRM 23-02-10 12:13 AM

Re: Chain cleaner?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by carternd (Post 2191393)
Kerosene is American for paraffin. Garden stores, petrol stations, motor factors, t'interweb.


Ah see....thanks.

barwel1992 23-02-10 01:05 AM

Re: Chain cleaner?
 
yes the mucoff cleaner works i had one for my push bike (i use the same chain oil as on the sv) and it does indeed work well apart from when you drop a dumbbell on it :lol: they sort of smash

BanannaMan 23-02-10 05:05 AM

Re: Chain cleaner?
 
Been using WD-40 and a rag to get chains spotless for years with no problems.

It's fairly cheap here in the US.
And it smells better, makes less mess, etc. than paraffin.

AndyBrad 23-02-10 07:58 AM

Re: Chain cleaner?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by yorkie_chris (Post 2191394)
The local B&Q call it parascene and sell it as fuel for greenhouse heaters.

Or white spirit is pretty similar but a little thinner.

aye,

i thourght white spirit was different tho and would damage rubber. alcohol isnt it?

Lucas 23-02-10 08:48 AM

Re: Chain cleaner?
 
get this and all will be shiny :cool:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/WURTH-Brake-%2...762ea6fff495ea

http://i.ebayimg.com/23/%21BktlZBgBm...1%7E%7E_35.JPG

timwilky 23-02-10 08:53 AM

Re: Chain cleaner?
 
paraffin and the wifes elecy toothbrush

Dave20046 23-02-10 09:22 AM

Re: Chain cleaner?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lucas (Post 2191476)

Dude that's pricey chain care! (agree with the dry lube though)

Lucas 23-02-10 09:45 AM

Re: Chain cleaner?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave20046 (Post 2191506)
Dude that's pricey chain care! (agree with the dry lube though)

I use paraffin on chain, the cleaner is only used for brakes (don't fancy using paraffin on brakes!), the HP dry lube is the best one I found and worth the penny as it last longer then other brands. the brush comes in handy for cleaning other bike bites. :D

Dave20046 23-02-10 09:46 AM

Re: Chain cleaner?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lucas (Post 2191520)
I use paraffin on chain, the cleaner is only used for brakes (don't fancy using paraffin on brakes!), the HP dry lube is the best one I found and worth the penny as last longer then other brands. the brush comes in handy for cleaning other bike bites. :D

I thought you were recommending the brake cleaner for the chain!
Yeah I like wurth stuff, pricey though.

Owenski 23-02-10 10:26 AM

Re: Chain cleaner?
 
white spirit, turps and a large sponge plus chain lube of your choosing.

Did this for a bit then got bored now use degrasant spray hose pipe and spray on lube.

AndyBrad 23-02-10 10:55 AM

Re: Chain cleaner?
 
aye all well and good with the spray cleaners and brushes etc. but after ive finished ive got crap all over the bike and floor. im wanting something to do it well and keep the place clean at the same time..

Lucas 23-02-10 11:13 AM

Re: Chain cleaner?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AndyBrad (Post 2191604)
aye all well and good with the spray cleaners and brushes etc. but after ive finished ive got crap all over the bike and floor. im wanting something to do it well and keep the place clean at the same time..

do it at a friend's ;)

cuffy 23-02-10 11:32 AM

Re: Chain cleaner?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by timwilky (Post 2191478)
paraffin and the wifes elecy toothbrush

I think i've found her electric toothbrush, but it appears to have no bristles but a big bulbous head. Will the suffice?
Confused, Wiltshire :D

Ed 23-02-10 01:47 PM

Re: Chain cleaner?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cuffy (Post 2191658)
I think i've found her electric toothbrush, but it appears to have no bristles but a big bulbous head. Will the suffice?
Confused, Wiltshire :D

Cuffy, I think you've found something else;)

timwilky 23-02-10 01:52 PM

Re: Chain cleaner?
 
Perhaps that explains how she knocked her teeth out all by herself

dizzyblonde 23-02-10 01:58 PM

Re: Chain cleaner?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AndyBrad (Post 2191604)
aye all well and good with the spray cleaners and brushes etc. but after ive finished ive got crap all over the bike and floor. im wanting something to do it well and keep the place clean at the same time..


If you use my method the only thing you get filthy is your hands;) Come on Andy, you wouldn't expect me to make a mess all over my garden would you?

oliciv 23-02-10 06:23 PM

Re: Chain cleaner?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AndyBrad (Post 2190660)

I've used the bicycle version in the past - just seemed to spread the dirt out evenly on the chain

carternd 23-02-10 07:13 PM

Re: Chain cleaner?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AndyBrad (Post 2191604)
aye all well and good with the spray cleaners and brushes etc. but after ive finished ive got crap all over the bike and floor. im wanting something to do it well and keep the place clean at the same time..

I do mine in the road, where the bike lives. And then wash the rest of the bike. That usually floats away the worst of the muck.

Maybe put a large cardboard box down or an old sheet, and a smaller box behind the swingarm. WD-40 is good for polishing off the back wheel and swingarm. Just not the tyre or back brake!

But if this thing actually works nearly as well as a toothbrush it's probably worth it.


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