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Specialone 21-03-10 08:42 PM

Petrol prices
 
Had this sent me earlier, not 100% about it but its worth a go.




The price of oil is as low as it has been for a while, But the oil companies have simply jacked their prices up and the government will not do anything as they rake in extra VAT for every increase.


See what you think and pass it on if you agree with it

We are hitting 114.9 a litre in some areas now, soon we will be faced with paying 1.50 a litre. Philip Hollsworth offered this good idea:


This makes MUCH MORE SENSE than the 'don't buy petrol on a certain day campaign that was going around last April or May! The oil companies just laughed at that because they knew we wouldn't continue to hurt ourselves by refusing to buy petrol. It was more of an inconvenience to us than it was a problem for them. BUT,whoever thought of this idea, has come up with a plan that can really work.

Please read it and join in!

Now that the oil companies and the OPEC nations have conditioned us to think that the cost of a litre is CHEAP, we need to take aggressive action to teach them that BUYERS control the market place not sellers. With the price of petrol going up more each day, we consumers need to take action. The only way we are going to see the price of petrol come down is if we hit someone in the pocket by not purchasing their Petrol! And we can do that WITHOUT hurting ourselves. Here's the idea:


For the rest of this yearDON'TPURCHASEANYpetrolFROMthe two biggest oil companies (which now are one),ESSO and BP.



If they are not selling any petrol, they will be inclined to reduce their prices. If they reduce their prices, the other companies will have to follow suit. But to have an impact we need to reach literally millions of Esso and BP petrol buyers. It's really simple to do!!


Now, don't wimp out at this point... keep reading and I'll explain how simple it is to reach millions of people!!


I am sending this note to a lot of people. If each of you send it to at least ten more (30 x 10 = 300)... and those 300 send it to at least ten more (300 x 10 = 3,000) ... and so on, by the time the message reaches the sixth generation of people, we will have reached over THREE MILLION consumers! If those three million get excited and

pass this on to ten friends each, then 30 million people will have been contacted! If it goes one level further, you guessed it... ...


THREE HUNDRED MILLION PEOPLE!!!

Again, all You have to do is send this to 10 people. That's all.(and not buy at ESSO/BP) How long would all that take? If each of us sends this email out to ten more people within one day of receipt,

all 300 MILLION people could conceivably be contacted within the next 8days!!! Acting together we can make a difference . If this makes sense to you, please pass this message on.

PLEASE HOLD OUT UNTIL THEY LOWER THEIR PRICES TO THE 90p a LITRE RANGE

It's easy to make this happen. Just forward this email, and BUY your petrol at Shell, Asda,Tesco, Sainsburys, Morrisons Jet etc.

BOYCOTT ESSO and BP.












Dave20046 21-03-10 08:45 PM

Re: Petrol prices
 
Paid £1.16 the other day, and it's going up! *******s.
The above's been around for a while and I can't see it working unless they had proper TV/radio coverage.

kellyjo 21-03-10 08:49 PM

Re: Petrol prices
 
A good idea in principle, the hard part is getting everyone doing it! I tend to buy from my local Pace, Murco or Tesco anyway.

ChrisSV 21-03-10 08:51 PM

Re: Petrol prices
 
Sounds like quite a good idea in theory, might be worth it, no harm done if it dont work, is there really.

But one snag, dont BP and ESSO have shares in places like Shell and such like, and dont they provide petrol to supermarkets, just a watered down version? Just a thought.
But still a good idea in essence, il give it a go, whats there to lose!?

Chris

P.S I paid £1.14 on thursday and went past the same place today and it was £1.17, rob doggin F*****s

Girth 21-03-10 08:53 PM

Re: Petrol prices
 
Cost me twice now over £16 to fill the bikes, normally only takes about £14-15.

Round here its 114.9-117.9p and seen it for 118.9p today in Accrington!

:(

Specialone 21-03-10 08:56 PM

Re: Petrol prices
 
It cost me today £56 to fill my diesel golf up, £56 fu*king quid.
I hate this l;abour government with a passion, robbing waste of space bas*ards.

darylB 21-03-10 08:57 PM

Re: Petrol prices
 
On the way back to Shrewsbury today from Bala saw it at £1.25p a litre, ouch!

Daryl.

slark01 21-03-10 09:00 PM

Re: Petrol prices
 
Will not work because there are far too many people who cannot be bothered. Plus this little island of ours is run by a bunch of ****holes who only care about themselves.

The best way is for bikes/lorries to blockade all major cities in the UK. The Government will threaten those people but really cannot do anything about it.
It's amazing how the price has gone up and yet the general public have just taken it on the chin and said Cest la vie.

Ste.

Sean_C 21-03-10 09:01 PM

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Don't quote me on this, but I think that although the price of crude oil is relatively low, not as much of it is being refined. Less of it means higher demand/price.

Bottled out at 50 quid, filling up my diesel the other day. On apprentice wages, I have to be pretty careful about where and how often I drive outside of commuting. Sadly, I can only see this carrying on throughout life, as fuel will only ever go up.

metalmonkey 21-03-10 09:04 PM

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Its the government that have "jacked" up the price more than anything else.

But since there is such a huge amount apathy in this country nothing will happen about it, we are doormat citizens until that changes don't expect petrol prices or anything else to change.

Also tax won't drop drop the country is broke, its only gonna get worse.

Oh yes do boycott BP ect but whatever genuis suggested that, where do you think they get fuel from? I haven't seen any oil platforms or refinies with a tesco flag have you?

Yes it will soon cost $20 to fill up my bike joy:rolleyes:

*pound sign on my comp broke.

Stuuk1 21-03-10 09:05 PM

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If I dont buy from BP then I dont get my nectar points which pay for my christmas shopping... Oh wait, I dont pay for petrol anyway. I have a company credit card ;)

fizzwheel 21-03-10 09:07 PM

Re: Petrol prices
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by slark01 (Post 2218958)
general public have just taken it on the chin and said Cest la vie.

But what else can you do. We're an oil based economy, the problem here isnt the price of crude, its the fact that alot s of the price you pay at the pump goes to the government in tax and every budget they put the fuel duty up again. IIRC its going up another 3p per litre shortly.


http://www.petrolprices.com/fuel-tax.html

Not buying petrol only works for so long. To blame the oil companies completely for the price of petrol is also IMHO a little short sited...

AndyBrad 21-03-10 09:11 PM

Re: Petrol prices
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sean_C (Post 2218963)
Don't quote me on this, but I think that although the price of crude oil is relatively low, not as much of it is being refined. Less of it means higher demand/price.
.

this is true... :(

1.21 per L in the trumpet today. gutted!!! the amount they are spending on getting the oil out the the ground is phenominal (trust me) the only thing you could do is tackle our gov. the oil industry while making massive profits, is a secodary souce of the troubble.

Bluefish 21-03-10 09:12 PM

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Whatever you do don't vote labour, more like. :thumbdown:

Messie 21-03-10 09:16 PM

Re: Petrol prices
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bluefishman (Post 2218986)
Whatever you do don't vote labour, more like. :thumbdown:

Why? What are any of the other parties going to do about it? What is the Tory policy on crude oil prices. What will LibDem do about the oil cartels? Do labour have any plans for oil tax?

It's just too easy to blame the current government. Now, I don't think they're any better than any of the other potential scounging wind bags, but, oil prices are bigger than a single country's governments problem.

Oil owners rule the world

fizzwheel 21-03-10 09:25 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Messie (Post 2218996)
Why? What are any of the other parties going to do about it?

I suspect

1. Not a lot.
2. Blame the previous Government for the mess they've been left with.

Thats normally what happens.

Biker Biggles 21-03-10 10:17 PM

Re: Petrol prices
 
The price of crude is quoted in dollars and it has indeed fallen recently and the government takes a lot of tax from fuel(but so will the next government whoever they are)but we buy our imported oil(because we squandered our North Sea bonanza like spoiled children)and pay for it in pounds.The pound has plumetted in value over the last year and that is why oil is very expensive to us.

Stingo 21-03-10 10:24 PM

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That's all very well but i always top-up with the higher ron, more expensive stuff:smt016. Many of the cheaper places (supermarket garages and many others) just don't stock the stuff.:(

rick0361 21-03-10 10:27 PM

Re: Petrol prices
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by metalmonkey (Post 2218969)

But since there is such a huge amount apathy in this country nothing will happen about it, we are doormat citizens until that changes don't expect petrol prices or anything else to change.

That is so true and only @30% of the population will go out and vote in about a months time.

The political establishment would cr@p itself if there was a 100% turnout

Get out there and show them they need you more than you need them

jamesterror 21-03-10 10:29 PM

Re: Petrol prices
 
Might be worth selling my shares in BP now and rebuying in a few weeks if people stop moaning and actually take action, something I envy France for amusingly.

Has nobody thought that all the oil companies could hike the price up several days before, then drop it really low on the day to encourage people to purchase....

sauluk 21-03-10 11:07 PM

Re: Petrol prices
 
People have tried this for years, doesn't work unfortunately, if you're running out of fuel, you'll stop anywhere. Case in point I paid 119p per l to fill up at a texaco garage a couple of days ago!

metalhead19 22-03-10 01:44 AM

Re: Petrol prices
 
Unfortunately +1, on the M4 last weekend had to fill up, cost me £1.24 a ltr! What a bloody rip off!

BanannaMan 22-03-10 03:50 AM

Re: Petrol prices
 
Boycotting may or may not hurt the big companys, depending on how many people take part.
Those who will suffer most are the small (local) business owners most of whom are only making a few pence on petrol, but depend on it's sales to bring in customers and to keep them going during slow sales periods.

Fizzy Fish 22-03-10 06:23 AM

Re: Petrol prices
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by metalmonkey (Post 2218969)

Yes it will soon cost $20 to fill up my bike joy:rolleyes:

*pound sign on my comp broke.

I filled up with my OH the other day, his SuperDuke came to over £20!! :shock:

Boycott sounds like a good idea in principle, though just my luck it will result in my local petrol station closing or something rather than the prices going down!

And call me a cynic, but maybe this was started by an employee of Shell or something...

Specialone 22-03-10 07:30 AM

Re: Petrol prices
 
I know a lot of smaller petrol stations will suffer as they are supplied by the big 2, but we have to look at the bigger picture and take collateral damage.
But as Fizz said, the oil companies are not solely to blame for this, government are taking way too much tax on fuel and after income tax must be their biggest earner.
We'd be better off targeting the tax side of things than the oil companies imo.
But i will try anything if its got a chance.

Phil

Viney 22-03-10 08:54 AM

Re: Petrol prices
 
I love all this. Petrol is cheap, something like 16p Per litre, its the 85% tax thats that killer. Its the government that we should be hammering not the fuel companies. So for every litre at £1.16, our blessed government takes £0.99 or there abaouts. They are the ones that put a couple of pence, here, a couple of pence there. Im sure that the fuel companies do what they can, and msot of the subsidse thier income by having shops, and affiliations witht he likes of M&S.

So vote wisely.

PsychoCannon 22-03-10 09:20 AM

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Agreed, if you want to cut the cost, aim for trimming the biggest expenditure, that's gov tax isn't it?

Fat chance of that happening.

£25 to fill up the bike a few days ago!
The local Esso here is at £1.17 luckily there is one not 100 meters further on at the average £1.15, same as my local tescos.

If I get caught out at a rip off station I'll just top up what I need to get back to a normal station rather than fill up, even if it only saves a few liters just on principle.

timwilky 22-03-10 09:28 AM

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Local radio news is advising a repeat of the bike protest in the North West for 1st May

A go slow from Bradford to Manchester on M62, M60, M602. Seems to be organised by "Maverick" who did the one a couple of years back

simesb 22-03-10 09:35 AM

Re: Petrol prices
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rick0361 (Post 2219116)
That is so true and only @30% of the population will go out and vote in about a months time.

The political establishment would cr@p itself if there was a 100% turnout

Get out there and show them they need you more than you need them

I agree that everybody should vote, but what makes you think that the overall result would be different just because more people turn out?

Vorkohnen 22-03-10 09:53 AM

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What's all that hot air about a fuel strike on the 1st May this year? I swear one of my mates was on about it :smt017

embee 22-03-10 10:06 AM

Re: Petrol prices
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fizzwheel (Post 2218974)
.... IIRC its going up another 3p per litre shortly.

http://www.petrolprices.com/fuel-tax.html

...

Don't forget that 3p duty rise has VAT applied, so it's really just over 3.5p.

Viney 22-03-10 10:14 AM

Re: Petrol prices
 
The dearest station i found recently is 1.45 a litre! This is Eco in earls court!

I have apicture of a petrol garage back in the early 80's at 1.63 a GALLON!

yorkie_chris 22-03-10 12:13 PM

Re: Petrol prices
 
The oil companies aren't to blame, it's the ridiculous tax which is. And still going up.

The pound is devalued, so you can't buy things in dollars as cheaply, such as oil. The thinking is this makes it more viable for people to purchase our exports and help the economy in general... at the cost of crippling ordinary people.

gettin2dizzy 22-03-10 03:07 PM

Re: Petrol prices
 
I still use my car to drive the half mile to the Co-op. What a life of excess I must inadvertently lead ;)

Specialone 22-03-10 06:24 PM

Re: Petrol prices
 
The oil companies have to take some of the blame, they control the market by slowing or speeding up barrel production creating supply and demand.
But most of the blame lies with labour, or more specifically one eye brown, he taxed the crap out of us while chancellor.

metalangel 22-03-10 06:30 PM

Re: Petrol prices
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gettin2dizzy (Post 2219916)
I still use my car to drive the half mile to the Co-op. What a life of excess I must inadvertently lead ;)

You killed three polar bears, started a war and destroyed the planet just by typing that, you magnyficint basterd. :o

carternd 22-03-10 06:38 PM

Re: Petrol prices
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sean_C (Post 2218963)
Don't quote me on this, but I think that although the price of crude oil is relatively low, not as much of it is being refined. Less of it means higher demand/price.

Bottled out at 50 quid, filling up my diesel the other day. On apprentice wages, I have to be pretty careful about where and how often I drive outside of commuting. Sadly, I can only see this carrying on throughout life, as fuel will only ever go up.

And this is the point of the (conservative-introduced) fuel tax escalator. I curse it, but I bought an SV rather than a lunatic length-extension sportsbike partly for this reason. It's still significantly faster than my brain and does over 50mpg, unless I treat it like Max Mosley.

We have to face the fact that the planet will be f*cked if we continue to P*ss in our own pool. I'd like the option of economical bikes, with improved performance on the Royal Enfield. It can be done, and surely will be done at some point.

Miss Alpinestarhero 23-03-10 12:07 PM

Re: Petrol prices
 
Its a joke :(

My car is getting so expensive to fill up but I have no choice but to drive to work. Public transport takes me 2 hours so that option is out the window.

Grinch 23-03-10 12:27 PM

Re: Petrol prices
 
The odd things I found is that the government always pushes the fuel price as a way to encourage you to use public transport and such. But if we did that there would be huge hole in the budget and the public transport network would probably collapse under the strain.
The only way I can see of hurting the government in this situation is not a 'go slow' as you still need fuel and it only hurts people and businesses trying to use those roads the 'go slow' is on.
More a complete group/county/country wide refusal to buy fuel. Say no-one travel to work on a Wednesday, thus saving that fuel cost on that day, but also affecting the countries economy due to a drop in production and putting pressure on the government from businesses.
You just look back at the money the country lost when loads of people couldn't get to work due to the roads being snowed up. That will create focus, but how do you get a whole country to effectively go on strike.

gettin2dizzy 23-03-10 12:48 PM

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A car share between two other of my colleagues saved me a bomb, and it was nice to take a nap on the 45 min drive every other day :) Before I worked out this arrangement I *needed* a car at work. Needless to say you just find ways of coping easily.


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