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rick0361 23-03-10 01:31 PM

Motorbike Warning from MP
 
This makes my blood boil.

Huddersfield MP Barry Sheerman is quoted as saying in todays Huddersfield Examiner, page 5 that "Around 650 people on motorbikes die each year, which is an astonishing figure. In two years nearly as many people are killed in motorbike crashes as British soldiers killed in combat in the last 40 years.....If you have a husband, boyfriend or son who wants a motorbike, please try and persuade them to get something with four wheels instead"

What a ****!

Who the hell does he think he is.

In response I would say .. if you want your child to grow up to work at being immoral, irresponsible , a cheat, a swindler and a thief .. then tell him don't go for a life of crime - be an MP The hours are more sociable for starters!

Members of Parliament - when you are so good, that you are a shining example to the rest of us then we might listen to you - until then go back to your two houses, one of which WE are paying for, go back to filling in your claim forms for your moat cleaning and duck houses or whatever.. but please don't tell me how to live my life and that of my friends.

Oh and by the way I also believe that no British soldiers life is worth the sh!t you are selling us to justify YOUR wars which no doubt you are doing for the benefit of the arms manufacturers of this country. In my mind 650 britsh servicemen and women might have died doing their jobs but they sure as hell did not deserve to die for trash like this.

Phew!

yorkie_chris 23-03-10 01:34 PM

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Before I send him a polite email, what is the source of this?

gettin2dizzy 23-03-10 01:35 PM

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Source?


I wouldn't get your knickers in a twist. It's not an election winning point.

orose 23-03-10 01:37 PM

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+1 to what Chris said - I want to have a proper read for context before calling for his hanging.

rick0361 23-03-10 01:40 PM

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Source is todays Huddersfield Examiner Page 5 column 1 second story

BTW I don't actually favour hanging - public impalement is more my thing.

That or sending him out hunting IED's in Helmand province!

orose 23-03-10 01:42 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gettin2dizzy (Post 2220986)
Source?


I wouldn't get your knickers in a twist. It's not an election winning point.

Does that matter? I want people of all classes and professions to stop spouting uninformed nonsense, so I may as well start with something I enjoy doing.

Mr Speirs 23-03-10 01:45 PM

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I wonder how many people die driving cars each year, or from smoking, or falling over.

People if you have husbands, son's or boyfriends who want to use their legs tell them no...they might fall over. If you have a wife, daughter or girlfriend who has legs that's okay as apparently they don't fall over.

the_lone_wolf 23-03-10 01:46 PM

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Considering this 'tard was:

99% in favour of "Iraq 2003 - For the invasion" and only 1% in favour of "Iraq Investigation - Necessary"

From his voting history, perhaps he should be looking inwardly before comparing how many bikers die to the number of soldiers his votes unnecessarily sent to their deaths...

******:rolleyes:

rick0361 23-03-10 01:51 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by orose (Post 2220997)
Does that matter? I want people of all classes and professions to stop spouting uninformed nonsense, so I may as well start with something I enjoy doing.

Him or Me ?

rick0361 23-03-10 01:52 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gettin2dizzy (Post 2220986)
Source?


I wouldn't get your knickers in a twist. It's not an election winning point.

Perhaps not but this is the sort garbage that this current shower seem to come out with at the drop of hat rather than face the reality of what their ilk have done to this country since then end of the last war

orose 23-03-10 02:05 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rick0361 (Post 2221004)
Him or Me ?

Him - his words are more influential to the unenlightened citizens of this world.

Biker Biggles 23-03-10 02:11 PM

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Lots of people die every year,including MPs.Just one of lifes little certainties.

rick0361 23-03-10 02:12 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by orose (Post 2221020)
Him - his words are more influential to the unenlightened citizens of this world.

Damn - I still have no influence!!
;)
How will I make the wife ever listen to me!!

Viney 23-03-10 02:15 PM

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How is it uninformed nonsense? Its probably not that far from the truth and thats that. Personaly i think he has a point. i know that my parents never wanted me to get a bike, and even after 12 years on 2 wheels, me mum still isnt 100% about it.

I still say that if bikes were invented today, they wouldnt see the light of day due to Health and safety etc.

metalangel 23-03-10 02:20 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Speirs (Post 2221001)
If you have a wife, daughter or girlfriend who has legs that's okay as apparently they don't fall over.

They don't ride motorbikes either, don't forget.

Triv650 23-03-10 02:29 PM

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I'm going to send a polite e-mail to Barry Sheerman but I'm not sure how to end it. "Up yours" or "Feck off" Choices, choices...

Srsly though, who does he think he is. Not that I'm trying to diminish the importance of what he is saying, but isn't this like an MP saying "If someone you know is trying to join the military, please persuade them not to as there is a chance they may die" I don't know whether he has the best intentions but I'm sure the vast majority of people don't need Barry's guiding hand of golden light when choosing a mode of transport.

davepreston 23-03-10 02:37 PM

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well ive survived a war or 2 does that mean i may as well ride a bike?
i know i'll sell my new bike and buy at ticket back to iraq as its safer

Triv650 23-03-10 02:43 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by davepreston (Post 2221078)
well ive survived a war or 2 does that mean i may as well ride a bike?
i know i'll sell my new bike and buy at ticket back to iraq as its safer

Haha, sounds like a good move. Interesting how buying a motorbike is often considered stupid but taking part in extreme sports that aren't half as dangerous is often considered brave. Never understood that really.

orose 23-03-10 02:44 PM

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That was why I'm interested in finding the source article - I suspect the ellipsis is hiding the bit I'm targetting, where we'll find something that is grade A nonsense.

yorkie_chris 23-03-10 02:45 PM

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If I didn't ride a bike or do any extreme sports I'd have to shoot myself in the head out of boredom, and statistically that's REALLY f*ckin dangerous!

Bri w 23-03-10 02:46 PM

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The guy's a d!ck.

It's open mouth and spout some well meaning drivel just to keep his name in the spotlight at election time.

But hey, lets stop rocking climbing, sky diving, pot holing, Scuba diving, rugby, boxing and crossing the road. Don't forget, smoking, drinking and Cadbury's creme eggs.

It's his 15mins of fame. Don't even worry about it.

yorkie_chris 23-03-10 02:47 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bri w (Post 2221099)
It's his 15mins of fame. Don't even worry about it.

On p5 of a local newspaper? Poor barstard doesn't aspire to much...

Even I've been on front page of my local rag :laughat:

timwilky 23-03-10 02:50 PM

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What is worrying is this guys sits on a parliamentary committee for transport safety.

Triv650 23-03-10 02:53 PM

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Anyone sent him an e-mail yet?

ophic 23-03-10 02:54 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by yorkie_chris (Post 2221095)
If I didn't ride a bike or do any extreme sports I'd have to shoot myself in the head out of boredom, and statistically that's REALLY f*ckin dangerous!

every cloud... ;)

Bikers die often at the hands of irresponsible car drivers. If being vulnerable is a crime, perhaps we should legalise weapon ownership so you can defend your property. Or shoot the idiots who don't see you. That ought to reduce accidents.

ChrisSV 23-03-10 02:55 PM

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TW*T!! springs to mind here

but on a serious note, this may seem like nonsense to alot of us, and we may be clever enough to know to ignore it, and just take it as a pre election rant, meaning nothing, But just take into account all the people that will read this, that arnt enlightened or clever enough to realise its just a confidence boost to him, and how many people are goin to read this and go "yeah good point" and pass it on, more than a few i bet!

rick0361 23-03-10 03:27 PM

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Found this - so if it was said in the Houses of Parliament it would be reported in Hansard

http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/co...opic-id=387623

rick0361 23-03-10 03:28 PM

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From Hansard 18/3/2010
http://www.publications.parliament.u...10031848000028

beabert 23-03-10 03:40 PM

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Doesn't bother me, no one listens to em anyway. Also If i had a child i would persuade them not to get one, id rather them drive a a car.

rick0361 23-03-10 03:48 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by beabert (Post 2221197)
Doesn't bother me, no one listens to em anyway. Also If i had a child i would persuade them not to get one, id rather them drive a a car.

I have a child and I want to ensure that in the future he is able to make his own choices - not have some "well meaning" (yeah right) person tell him how it is going to be

orose 23-03-10 03:53 PM

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Works for me - I'd say Mr Clark was fairly clear in his rebuttal, without resorting to the emotive language of Mr Sheerman. May still be worth writing to him all the same though, if you live in his patch, and point out the error of his ways.

thulfi 23-03-10 04:02 PM

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MP stands for massive pri*ck

Triv650 23-03-10 04:05 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by thulfi (Post 2221237)
MP stands for massive pri*ck

Comments like that make me wonder if they will ever get public respect...

thulfi 23-03-10 04:08 PM

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Respect is earnt, not just a title.

Bri w 23-03-10 04:14 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by thulfi (Post 2221237)
MP stands for massive pri*ck

Not all are that bad but I do understand why their rep is so bad.

But equally its like saying all bikers are ........... pick a typical non-biker response.

thulfi 23-03-10 04:17 PM

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yeeh yeeh obviously not generalising, but in regards to this thread, and this MP, I believe sir, that it is a fitting comment!

Kuze 23-03-10 04:17 PM

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"Michael Fabricant (Lichfield) (Con): Often, it is the drivers of four-wheeled vehicles who cause the harm. But, what steps is the Minister taking to try to stop ordinary pedal cyclists going through red lights, cycling the wrong way and endangering pedestrians"
I like this dude already which party and where can i vote for him!!!

On a side note my parents (well my dad) doesnt like my bike but he respects my choice to ride and now looks for bikers where he didnt before. Should I have kids (lord help us no) i'll let them choose if they wish to be bikers or not, as for anything else (assuming its not illegal!)

metalangel 23-03-10 05:18 PM

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My parents do not approve. They didn't before my off, they extra don't after, though my father disapproves more than my mother (who is a closet petrolhead)

rick0361 23-03-10 05:22 PM

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Having recovered from the fit I had when I read the article in the first place I would like to point out what I feel to be the solution and it has probably suggested before.

1) It should be compulsory for all car drivers before they can even attempt a car test to have undertaken at least the CBT for motorbikes so that they can gain an appreciation of road sense on two wheels and the world from the two wheeled perspective.
2) All car drivers under the age of 21 should, in the same way as bikers, be restricted to cars which have a certain brake horse power and power to weight ratio. The concept and reality of 17 year old child getting behind the wheel of a powerful car seems somewhat akin to watching an African Child soldier handle an RPG7 Rocket launcher
3) All new drivers should have to display a mandatory sign on the vehicle to indicate to other road users that they are within 12 months of passing a test

Int his way at least we all gain some respect for the dangers of the roads that we all face daily (Thanks for the pot holes Kirklees) and for the other road users all around us.

I took my bike test late in my life having been interested all my life and it has made me a better, more alert driver to everything on the roads around me.

Messie 23-03-10 05:30 PM

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To the OP. A person (OK an MP) says he doesn't recommend males riding motorbikes

It's OK to hunt Chavs then?

Someone will recommend hunting bikers next - good grief!


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