SV650N to a Z1000?
 

Good step up ? has anyone riden one of these and what was your view on it ??

Re: sv650n to a z1000???
 

I think Soulkiss rides one when he's not falling off it...

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Soulkiss has the 750....but i thought the bikes were generally the same bar cc's??

Re: sv650n to a z1000???
 

750 probably the better bike tbh.

Re: sv650n to a z1000???
 

had a look at the 750 and only ones near me are new 1s seen a fully tricked up 2005 with 11k miles for £4.7k in mint condition fully serviced since new looking at doing a px for my k5

Re: sv650n to a z1000???
 

oh like the sig pic by the way proper old school.

Re: sv650n to a z1000???
 

:P

Re: sv650n to a z1000???
 

Based upon what?

Re: sv650n to a z1000???
 

z1000

Re: sv650n to a z1000???
 

In what respects? Done thousands of miles on the 1000 but never ridden the 750. What do you find better?

Re: sv650n to a z1000???
 

useability nice inbetween engine size personal preference really.

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I went from a curvy 650 naked to a 2006 Z750S - with K&N filter, Remus end can and a PCIII (mapped properly) it made about the same at the back tyre as a stock Z1000 (111hp). Compared to the SV it will feel a lot quicker - the rush of acceleration over 7000rpm is great fun and certainly a good step up from an SV. Its still a cheap bike though (Z750), has the same front brakes as the SV, el-cheapo suspension and vibrates quite a lot - I loved mine though and put 13k on it in 3 years (purely summer pleasure miles)

Try it - you might like it :D

Re: sv650n to a z1000???
 

Peg went from sv to Z1000 after him and the Sv was squashed into a million bends.
I believe he put 38k on it in two years, and went everywhere on it.

Loved it.

Re: sv650n to a z1000???
 

hmm need to look at booking a test ride on it ive sat on it, and it felt more upright than the sv but was ****ing down so couldnt take it out seemed loads better on build quality but then again new they are like 7k

Re: sv650n to a z1000???
 

was originally looking at a bandit 1250 but they weigh more than my car :P

Re: sv650n to a z1000???
 

is that based upon experience or

Re: sv650n to a z1000???
 

you know what i can't be arsed as you obviously looking too argue.

Re: sv650n to a z1000???
 

one of the reasons for the bigger engine is that i tend to try and pin the sv as im used to its power and before i had a vrf400 nc30

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BTW twin Akro's sound amazing on them. ;)
Still have a set of pea shooters in teh shed for that too. Must get round to fleabaying them:rolleyes:

Re: sv650n to a z1000???
 

it comes with dual beowulfs the carbon ended ones, ramos race levers, rear hugger, seal cowl, crash bungs and a alarm imobliser and is in the mean green kwak colours

Re: sv650n to a z1000???
 

Not looking to argue, just trying to find out if;

1. Ridden both and prefer 750.
2. Ridden neither and prefer 750.

Your first statement that 750 is the better bike sounded categorical. I've ridden neither so am interested in opinions based on experience.

Re: sv650n to a z1000???
 

Depends on the frame, I've ridden neither but would probably pick the 750 if it is in a lighter or more aggressive frame. Same reason I don't like GSXR11, too heavy and a little lazy even if the 11 does have enough torque to drive over a house.

750 is a nice balance of engine size, all the 1000cc sportsbikes just scare the living sh*te out of you whenever you look at the throttle, you can enjoy a 750 a bit more. Depends, I've read the z1000 are detuned to hell from sportsbike engine.

Test ride them both see what floats your boat.

Re: sv650n to a z1000???
 

Absolute bollox.
If you put it into this perspective:
SV650 (It's at the budget end)- SV1000, better suspension, brakes etc
The same goes for the Z's, i currently own the Z750 and it's a far better bike than i am a rider, 1st to admit it, but this to is aimed at the budget end of the market.
The Z1000 again has a superior suspension, brakes etc, if you read the reviews for the new Z1000 it's ranked up their with some of the best nakeds around.

Copied from the Z forum.

All New Engine

http://www.kawasaki.co.uk/Objects/w6...40DC15E884.jpg

Liquid-cooled, DOHC, 16-valve 1,043 cm3 In-line four offers a greater power output and stronger torque than the previous Z1000


Aggressive Styling

http://www.kawasaki.co.uk/Objects/w2...40DC155008.jpg

The new Z1000 takes the aggressive styling of its predecessor a step forward. From the sharply sloped front cowl design made possible by the new slim line-beam headlamp, to the minimalist tail section, the new Z1000 presents a very condensed, mass-forward image. This dynamic design is reinforced by the front fork covers and wide shrouds displaying intakes for the new Cool Air system.


All-new Aluminium Twin-tube Frame

http://www.kawasaki.co.uk/Objects/w6...40DC152662.jpg

The new aluminium twin-tube frame was designed specifically for the 2010 Z1000. Similar in concept to the frame of the Ninja ZX-10R, the frame beams go over engine, allowing a narrow overall construction that is easy to grip with the knees for added control.


New 5-spoke cast wheels

http://www.kawasaki.co.uk/Objects/w6...40DC15444A.jpg

New 5-spoke cast wheels complement the Z1000’s sharp design. The spokes are machined near the rim edge, adding to the high-quality appearance. The machined cut-outs were purposely designed to point in the reverse direction, a design element also visible on the new engine covers.


Cool Air System

http://www.kawasaki.co.uk/Objects/w6...40DC110EE0.jpg

The Cool Air system routes cool air to the airbox from ducts either side of the fuel tank, minimising performance loss due to heated intake air. This should not be confused with Ram Air, where force-fed air becomes pressurised in the airbox. Positioning the ducts close to the rider allows the intake sound to be enjoyed to the full.


Fully adjustable front forks

http://www.kawasaki.co.uk/Objects/w6...40DC111773.jpg

With the addition of compression damping adjustability, the Z1000’s 41 mm inverted front forks are now fully adjustable. Settings offer both sporty performance and comfort.


Horizontal back-link

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New rear suspension positions the shock unit and linkage above the swingarm. This locates the suspension far enough from the exhaust that operation will not be affected by heat. The new arrangement contributes to mass centralisation (please see below). Visible from the outside, the Horizontal Back-link contributes to the cutting edge appearance of the new Z1000. The new rear suspension eliminates the external reservoir tank, however performance is the same or better than that of the 2009 Z1000.


New adjustable instrument panel

http://www.kawasaki.co.uk/Objects/w6...40DC115AA5.jpg

Fully digital instrument panel features an eye-catching orange lens. The instrument panel can be angled to suit rider preference. Riders can choose from three positions with the angle easily changed without tools via an adjuster knob on the left side. Meter functions include digital speedometer, bar-style digital tachometer, odometer, two trip meters, fuel gauge, and clock.


Brakes

http://www.kawasaki.co.uk/Objects/w2...40DC117116.jpg

At the front, the Z1000’s 300 mm petal brake discs are gripped by opposed 4-piston radial-mount calipers. A radial-pump front brake master cylinder also contributes to the superb control and feel offered by the new calipers. The rear brake features a single piston, pin-slide caliper gripping a 250 mm petal disc.


Quad-style muffler

http://www.kawasaki.co.uk/Objects/w6...40DC119997.jpg

Quad-style mufflers maintain a key design element from previous models. The shorter silencer design (each 2/3 the volume of the 09MY model) allows the wheel silhouette to be seen.


LED Tail light

http://www.kawasaki.co.uk/Objects/w6...40DC28EAA5.jpg

LED taillight design reminiscent of the original Z1000’s features red LED bulbs and a transparent lens.


Fat handlebars

http://www.kawasaki.co.uk/Objects/w6...40DC28C008.jpg

New handlebar is rigid-mounted, contributing to the sharper handling. The new handlebar also looks tough, contributing a touch of bad-boy image to the Z1000’s appearance


Seat cover

http://www.kawasaki.co.uk/Objects/w6...40DCCC544A.jpg

http://www.kawasaki.co.uk/Objects/w6...40D7793662.jpg

Enhance the sleek, aggressive lines of your Z1000 with a colour-matched cowl for the pillion seat when you’re riding solo.

Re: sv650n to a z1000???
 

I had a 55 plater.

They go like **** off a stick, but the chassis really struggles when pushed though. If you really cane it over bumpy roads it will shake its head, the standard suspension isnt very good. Because of this it will eat rear tyres aswell.

It was pretty comfy though and I could ride mine all day long.

The only thing I hated about mine was the build quality, it really suffered riding through winter, way way more than my SV. It just rusted infront of my eyes regardless of how much I cleaned it. I would never have another Kwak again.

Ive never ridden the 750 so cant comment on that.

Re: sv650n to a z1000???
 

But the 650 is a sweeter engine and chassis than the 1000 for having fun on when you sort out the budget bits.

Re: sv650n to a z1000???
 

Heavy in what respect Chris?
If a crippled bloke with half a leg can chuck it around, then I suppose anyone can:D

Edit, I seem to recall the convo between Monsieur Chop and Peg when we met, both had differing opinions on build quality, both used it in winter, one saw it rot, the other was like new.

Re: sv650n to a z1000???
 

I know the 05 model pretty well, nice useable thou, a good step up, it can be ridden fairly gently most of the time and below 5-6k is friendly power delivery, above that it has the ability to shift a fair bit, runs out of suspention way before power would ever become an issue and likewise the standard brakes aren't of the same standard as the companies sports range, not so keen on the frame dressing plastic though, but over all a nice entry to the thou club.

although the extras sound and no doubt look pretty I'd be looking for a 636 front end, which was a popular upgrade as it sorted the weird standard one legged affair suspension out and also gives the sports bikes radial brakes.

HTH

Cheers Mark.

Re: sv650n to a z1000???
 

Mine always seemed smaller that my SV650s. It was a tiny bike.

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Re: sv650n to a z1000???
 

@dizzy
The GSXR11 is a right heavy beast compared to the 750 despite the fact the engines are similar in size. Which makes the 750s so much of a better bike.

If the same applies to the kwak, not saying it does, I would take the 750.

Re: sv650n to a z1000???
 

what was the main points of corrosion on it ?

Re: sv650n to a z1000???
 

once again you seem to be quoting the new model, I believe the OP is looking at an O5 version, however if I've got that wrong, I've got several options for new type money.

Cheers Mark.

Re: sv650n to a z1000???
 

Couldn't agree more mate, the SV1000 was too brutal for me that's why i got shot of it for the Z, more sedate pace of life now :D
I do like the look of the new Z1000 but i personally think a litre bike for me on the road would be an absolute waste of time, well it is as i proved with the SV, gets you into trouble alot quicker, not just with the law, corners came at me far too quickly for my liking.

Re: sv650n to a z1000???
 

that's the funny thing with opinion's your's won't be the same as other people's if you disagree with it then that's fine.

Re: sv650n to a z1000???
 

having owned both (one from new 88 and one from 3 months old 89) Chris is (in this case) right about the Suzuki's, the 750 was possibily the sweetest handling, best balanced bike of it's day the other merely a big stonking hammerthat lacked the ability in anything but a straight line to use all the extra power, but that's off the point slightly.

Cheers Mark.

Re: sv650n to a z1000???
 

It may be easier to ask the question from a different angle...

The seat pad was ok ;)

The wheels really suffered, I ended up getting them powdercoated.

The engine sticks out the sides a long way and are prone to stone chips, these just started to bubble and then corrode, there is also a coolant pipe on the near side of the engine, this just rotted.

The rear subframe suffered badly too, the final straw was when the paint just started to flake off the swing arm.

Re: sv650n to a z1000???
 

You're right, he was looking at the 05 model, i was speed reading again :D
Oh well, free plug for Kawasaki.

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I know the swing arm on the earlier 750 models were prone to bad rusting, dont know if the 1000 had a different swing arm?

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Heres a few ****ty pics taken on my phone ;)

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Different swinger, mine suffered badly around the hugger.