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chiefrick 11-04-10 05:55 PM

BBC Coverage - Moto GP
 
The BBC didnt show the quali last night on Red Button, instead opting to show the golf... tonight they are also meant to be showing the 125 & Moto 2 races before the main race on BBC 3.

At the moment, the golf is still on so not showing on red button!!!

If this bothers you, please complain otherwise they will do this all year!!!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/complaints/homepage/

If you have Eurosport, lucky you... my missus wont let me get sky :(

MR UKI (1) 11-04-10 06:02 PM

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Are you trying to watch it using Freeview? As it's on the BBC red button on mine but that's through Virgin Media. If it's freeview it's always a problem as they don't have enough channels through the red button quite often. I'm still watching it via Eurosport though ;)

SuzukiNess 11-04-10 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefrick (Post 2239701)
The BBC didnt show the quali last night on Red Button, instead opting to show the golf...

was well peeved when i tuned in to find the golf instead of the quali..


BBC.... :smt072

dont have sky either :(

fizzwheel 11-04-10 07:07 PM

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BBC were showing quali live on their website as well last night..

Dont bother me, got Sky + Eurosport = job done.

Yet again the BBC demonstate why they shouldnt have the rights to show motogp. It amazes me that they do such a quality job with the F1, but make such a mess of the Moto GP coverage.

LiamH 11-04-10 07:37 PM

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Already complained before reading this thread. BBC really bug me with the way they see bike racing as some sort of bizarre minority sport. Showing golf on BBC2 and red button? FFS... is the scheduling bloke a golf groupie or something.

How much of my license fee went on buying the rights to show MotoGP and support classes? And then they can't be arsed to show it anyway.

MR UKI (1) 11-04-10 07:38 PM

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Taken from BBC website re qualifying and 125, Moto 2 races:

Not available on Freeview - replay available Monday 1915-2245

MR UKI (1) 11-04-10 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by fizzwheel (Post 2239785)
BBC were showing quali live on their website as well last night..

Dont bother me, got Sky + Eurosport = job done.

Yet again the BBC demonstate why they shouldnt have the rights to show motogp. It amazes me that they do such a quality job with the F1, but make such a mess of the Moto GP coverage.

Thing is, they probably see it as bidding for Moto GP (i.e. Rossi, Lorenzo et al) and not the support races. Same as F1, they could probably show GP2 as part of the rights but don't. Just a shame that for most real bike fans the support classes are regularly much better.

Woz 11-04-10 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by LiamH (Post 2239821)
Already complained before reading this thread. BBC really bug me with the way they see bike racing as some sort of bizarre minority sport. Showing golf on BBC2 and red button? FFS... is the scheduling bloke a golf groupie or something.

How much of my license fee went on buying the rights to show MotoGP and support classes? And then they can't be arsed to show it anyway.


It's The Masters. They've always shown it.

As for being a minority sport... compared to golf, it is.

TazDaz 11-04-10 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Woz (Post 2239842)
It's The Masters. They've always shown it.

As for being a minority sport... compared to golf, it is.


No one really watches golf though...everyone I know who is into golf, just watchs the highlights.

Woz 11-04-10 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by TazDaz (Post 2239861)
No one really watches golf though

I do.

LiamH 11-04-10 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Woz (Post 2239842)
It's The Masters. They've always shown it.

As for being a minority sport... compared to golf, it is.

But why show it on 2 channels? And why advertise that they were going to show it, then pull the plug without any apology?

LiamH 11-04-10 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by MR UKI (1) (Post 2239823)
Taken from BBC website re qualifying and 125, Moto 2 races:

Not available on Freeview - replay available Monday 1915-2245

That was added AFTER they failed to show it I think.

MR UKI (1) 11-04-10 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by LiamH (Post 2239879)
That was added AFTER they failed to show it I think.

Taken from here:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/tv_a...io/5345480.stm

There's a few sports where its the same issue. I had a long email conversation with the producer from BBC Sport in Northern Ireland when the NW200 wasn't on Freeview. She said it was to do with bandwidth or summat on freeview.

On freeview there is a max of 3 screens on the red button for sport due to the bandwidth, but on Sky/Cable there is always 6 or 7 screens of sport. May be worth seeing if Freesat offers the same, at least there wouldn't be a subscription to pay.

ranathari 11-04-10 08:54 PM

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Qualifying wasn't on freesat's red button either so that would have been a non-starter.

MR UKI (1) 11-04-10 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ranathari (Post 2239900)
Qualifying wasn't on freesat's red button either so that would have been a non-starter.

Same with anything that's free then :D. Get yourself sky or cable boys ;)

LiamH 11-04-10 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by MR UKI (1) (Post 2239903)
Same with anything that's free then :D. Get yourself sky or cable boys ;)

I wish BBC was free!

chiefrick 11-04-10 09:42 PM

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At least the race was worth it, even though the coverage was a bit sketchy to say the least, no footage of Stoners crash? Though cant blame the BBC as it looks like it was Moto GP TV doing the broadcast...

Will have to get working on the missus to get Sky, though for the rip-off the license fee is, the BBC could have used the other red button channels sat empty?!

MR UKI (1) 11-04-10 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefrick (Post 2239945)
At least the race was worth it, even though the coverage was a bit sketchy to say the least, no footage of Stoners crash? Though cant blame the BBC as it looks like it was Moto GP TV doing the broadcast...

Will have to get working on the missus to get Sky, though for the rip-off the license fee is, the BBC could have used the other red button channels sat empty?!

I know it's not the same as watching on TV but if you wanted Eurosport on your laptop/desktop this subscription is only £3.99 a month. You'd also get 5 hours plus coverage from BSB live per round and World Supers live too.

http://video.eurosport.co.uk/eurospo...r/teaser.shtml

The Basket 12-04-10 08:05 AM

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BBC coverage of motogp sucks balls.

Can't get sky or cable and can only get slow broadband...

Curses.

rob13 12-04-10 08:39 AM

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I think now that JT has left MotoGP, their interest has waned further. Pathetic attempt at coverage. Literally just on at the start of the race, and disappears as soon as its finished. No in depth analysis before or after like F1, it seems like they just put it on as theyve paid for it so have to turn up. Disgraceful to think that I have to pay for this ****. The only other thing about the BBC is their radio, as I hardly watch any TV these days.

LiamH 12-04-10 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by robchester (Post 2240084)
...The only other thing about the BBC is their radio...

BBC radio? Don't get me started on that oaf Chris Moyles....

Biker Biggles 12-04-10 11:25 AM

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It doesnt bother me about the lack of "in depth" stuff or press conferences,just as long as they show the track action.I only want to see the racing,not listen to them all talking about it.

Woz 12-04-10 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by robchester (Post 2240084)
I think now that JT has left MotoGP, their interest has waned further. Pathetic attempt at coverage. Literally just on at the start of the race, and disappears as soon as its finished. No in depth analysis before or after like F1, it seems like they just put it on as theyve paid for it so have to turn up. Disgraceful to think that I have to pay for this ****. The only other thing about the BBC is their radio, as I hardly watch any TV these days.


I don't think that's anything to do with Toseland being gone as they did exactly the same last year at that circuit (although the heavy rain delayed the start so they managed to get some extra stuff in by default).

sinbad 12-04-10 02:40 PM

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It aggravates me quite a bit. The BBC should use the license fee to improve things for an audience of whatever it is they want to broadcast, that is the point. Viewing figures do not mean extra money for them, just a pat on the back because it means they're doing something right. So this service, which they are providing, has to please the target audience.........and it clearly does not!

The best thing they could do with their BBC budget for MotoGP, would be to give it to Eurosport so they can do it properly. That would be fulfilling their role of improving the viewing experience for audiences.

In addition, would it really be such a stretch for them to have a "BBC Sport" channel which is there only to broadcast whenever an event cannot be squeezed onto the other four? Or would there be some moral objection from the commercial networks etc.

barwel1992 12-04-10 02:56 PM

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^ what a crap idea about giving it to eurosport im sory but some of us dont have sky....

simesb 12-04-10 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by barwel1992 (Post 2240407)
^ what a crap idea about giving it to eurosport im sory but some of us dont have sky....

I don't, and will not, pay for Sky. Deepseated moral objection (yes, I cut my nose off to spite my face).

My complaint is not that they didn't show the qualifying, but that they said they would and then didn't.

sinbad 12-04-10 03:39 PM

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Well from my point of view it was a hell of a lot better before the BBC decided to acquire exclusive rights to live broadcast. I just don't get why they wanted to invest money only to do the actual broadcasting so lackadaisically. If they don't really want to do it properly, let someone else do it. I'm sorry, but I don't want the BBC to decide they want to give the half-baked treatment to WSB or BSB also.
"Race one highlights from Assen are available on the red-button, race 2 may be shown live on CBeebies, assuming "The Poobles Go To Lapland" doesn't run long. World Supersports?! Yeah right".

fizzwheel 12-04-10 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by barwel1992 (Post 2240407)
^ what a crap idea about giving it to eurosport im sory but some of us dont have sky....

But thats why I got sky in the first place.

If the BBC have paid all that money for exclusive rights why dont they show the footage. Its like having a motorbike in the garage and then never riding it.

I thinkt he BBC sports channel would be a good idea. It would also stop the tom foolery like we had last weekend when the F1 went from BBC1 to BBC2 mid race in order for the Easter Sunday service to g out live on BBC1...

Zombie Jesus 12-04-10 04:15 PM

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Dorna forced the exclusivity on the BBC to be fair

Sosha 12-04-10 04:23 PM

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Well that's cheered me up. Was starting to think I should have sorted an Ariel, a Freeviewbox & a TV license so I could watch the races. Glad I haven't. Will resort to gatecrashing people with Sky. Job done.

Biker Biggles 12-04-10 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by simesb (Post 2240422)
I don't, and will not, pay for Sky. Deepseated moral objection (yes, I cut my nose off to spite my face).

My complaint is not that they didn't show the qualifying, but that they said they would and then didn't.

Are you a big fan of Rupert Murdoch by any chance?;)
I avoid buying anything to do with him as well.:mad:

jambo 12-04-10 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Zombie Jesus (Post 2240472)
Dorna forced the exclusivity on the BBC to be fair

Correct.

Dorna declared that they wanted the live race to be aired by a national TV carrier, and wouldn't grant the rights to a multi-national like Erosport. Fine if you're in Spain, where this stuff is seen as premier leauge TV. Less good if you're stuck on Superbike Island, where we apparently like a good tennis match instead.

BBC's coverage has been no better, or worse than last year. However, they declared in a press statement that now they had an exclusive deal, that they would be upping their coverage, and I've not seen a lot of evidence of this.

Jambo

jacksuzukisv650 12-04-10 06:23 PM

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i didnt even see any coverage in the sun it was all girly footballll!!!!!!

fizzwheel 12-04-10 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by jambo (Post 2240518)
However, they declared in a press statement that now they had an exclusive deal, that they would be upping their coverage, and I've not seen a lot of evidence of this.

Indeed, yet if this was something a little more mainstream there wouldnt be an issue. Hell if they can manage to cover on BBC2 4 nights of World Championship Track Cycling then surely they can find some time for 125 & 250 especially with Bradley and Scot in the lower classes...

Old Git 12-04-10 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ranathari (Post 2239900)
Qualifying wasn't on freesat's red button either so that would have been a non-starter.

Not sure about alot of this, i watched the qualifying live & don't have sky or eurosport, admittedly at some stupid o'clock when everyone else was asleep, then watched the 125 & Moto2 live through red button sunday evening, then wet upstairs ( she had had enough) to watch the motoGP on bbc3

So, think maybe it is by area or maybe depends on what digi/freesat box you have plugged in.
Could not get qualifying on the freesat upstairs, but could on the big one downstairs !

ranathari 12-04-10 08:37 PM

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Qualifying was re-run after midnight IIRC so that might have been what you saw. The live session definitely wasn't on BBC TV.

simesb 13-04-10 01:46 PM

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They have responded. Don't expect great things...

rob13 13-04-10 07:23 PM

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I dont have Sky, I have Virgin and Im more than happy with it. My only complaint now is that having aqcuired Eurosport HD, they still dont show enough racing on it. Most of it is still on ES2 only.

BBC should be covered in adverts, its a joke having to pay a licence fee for what it provides for me. They've privatised other public bodies so its about time the BBC was sold off.

jacksuzukisv650 14-04-10 05:16 PM

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they have awnsers to every thing !!


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