newbie tail tidy advice
 

hey all,

going to pick up a blue sv 650 sport on wednesday 07 model,

it has the massive snow plough on the back so i will be looking to get a tail tidy.

i understand that i can just unbolt the old one and bolt the new one on....is it really that simple?

are the indicators easy to remove?

and why do people buy an undertray, will i need to?

thanks :)

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Yeah it really is that simple. I just fitted my Hamicad one, took me about an hour and a half without the best tools in the world. I have the instructions at home. If you want il scan em and email them to you later? when i get home.
The indicators are a bit fiddly, but come off easily enough. I shouldnt have thought you need an undertray.

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Wasn't there an issue that Hamicad tail tidies fell apart? or did the redesign it.

My memory doesn't go back properly on this one.

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I wasnt aware of any issues with then. And mine seems very well made, plus it survived my postman.
However if it do find any issues with it i shall be sure to report back on them.

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I had 2 hamicad tidies on my sv650 and sv1000 and they were both fine. To an absolute beginner it seems as simple as unbolting the old one and putting the new one in its place - the only catch is that the bolts for the standard one are hidden inside the tail piece/body work, so all that has to come off.

The hamicad instructions cover all this and it's just a matter of screws/popper lock thingy = straight forward job :) I was just a bit taken back when I opened the instructions and saw pictures of a stripped down rear end but it's pretty easy :)

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thanks for all the answers

and chris if you could scan them and email them over when you have time that would be awesome

jetz09@hotmail.com

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I too have a Hamicad on my SK9. So far so good, no problems to report in 7 months of fitting it. :)

Its a simple job to do and they provide clear full colour instructions on how to fit on their website http://www.hamicad.co.uk/SV_Fender.html

It took me about two hours to do. Remove front a rear seats and disconnect rear seat release. Disconnect rear indies, brake light and number plate light. Pop a few plastic retainers on the undertray and undo some bolts and remove the rear plastic tail assembly. If a remember correctly its just 4 bolts holding the shovel on. Pay special attention to the way the wires are routed so you can apply to the Hamicad. Once the shovel is off take the number plate and rubber seal off and put it on the Hamicad. Same with the indies. Then assembly as before.

Job Done and a nicier rear end :razz:

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I shall indeed email them to you later, when i get home from work :)

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Does the Hamicad one include a built-in battery box?

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the one i bought just replaced the very end tail unit, so leaves the standard undertray where it is

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Evotech is the only one worth buying !!

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I noticed that the website says that its not suitable for lowered bikes and mines been lowered by 40mm. Is there a decent tail tidy for us shorties?

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Issue isn't with the tail tidy, it is the plate - on a lowered bike, any tail tidy wit h a standard plate will increase the likelihood of the plate touching the tyre

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Tim - a couple of the early ones failed but they changed the design soon after - I had one of the new ones on my SV1000 in 2004 and had no problems at all with it in the 5 years I owned the bike.

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I need a tail tidy for my lowered bike too, but not sure what to buy yet.
Even thought about making one that keep the plate back slightly as I dont want a tiny small one.
Also, on the Hamicad instructions it says to relocate the fuse box on a naked SV, so where is the fuse box on an `S` that it doesn`t need moved ?

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I had to relocate me fusebox on my S, i just zip tied it to a right hand side frame member, no problems with it yet :)

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I have a hamicad tail tidy on my s and i never had to touch the fuse box tbh.

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Maybe Suzuki fix the fusebox to different parts of the bike depending on model and age then ?
Mines has it fitted onto plastic lugs which are part of the tail section snow plough thing, behind the tail light.
But that restricts access to the little storage compartment so I pondered moving it, and the scottoiler next to it which has drenched everything in fkin oil :(

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There must be an alternative tail tidy where you don't have to muck about and move stuff? I know a guy with a SV1000 and he basically hacked his original one to suit. Looks ok as well!

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You could make a triangular strip to fit between the plate and tail tidy which would angle the plate upwards more.

This would also stop stones been thrown up by the back tyre cracking the rear light lens, also helps keep the tail clean in the wet.

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Had a quick look on Ebay and this looks the part. And its cheaper than the hamicad.

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Theres a few on ebay cheaper than Hamicad.

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i would have gone with an colour coded under tray ....

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I am on my 3rd tail tidy for my K8. The R&G one wasn't a great fit (although I think I had a previous year model i.e. K3 or summat), I bought another one off a K9 bike, but there was a gap around the undertray (assume there was a sealing piece that I missed out on), however the Evotech comes with a sealing plate that has a neoprene/foam backing that ensures a seal between the stock undertray and the tail tidy. The tail tidy then bolts to the sealing plate (which is in turn bolted to the subframe). So, you remove the screw underneath the riders seat holding the rear side panels together, remove the plastic rivet too. Unclip the pillion seat lock (and remove the assembly via the hex bolt). Unscrew the rear plastics under the riders seat and pillion seat, unclip the rear indies, stop and numberplate lights, then remove the plastics. Unbolt the two sides to the undertray, remove snow shovel, fit tail tidy sealing plate (bolted to subframe), bolt stock undertray back on, fit numberplate light, numberplate and indies to tail tidy and fix tail tidy to sealing plate using 2 bolts. Connect wiring, re-attach plastics/pillion seat lock mechanism and job done.

An hour tops.

Only problem is, there seems to be a slight bit of sideways movement in the stock indies once fitted and I haven't had time yet to give it a proper dose of looking at.

That said, best tail tidy I've had yet, re-uses ALL stock lights etc and angles the number plate well away from the rear tyre.

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As was pointed out to me, you can always spray the stock one and use a tail tidy to get a similar effect for less cash.

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good point although the proper ones are smoother in appearance, just dont get one with the built in indies they are pretty useless