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haggis 22-05-10 08:12 PM

Builders/Chippy's on here?
 
Need some info about bolts/fixings please.

I'm looking for a weird type of bolt but dunno what they're called. :confused: Because of that, I'm not having much luck finding anywhere that sells them!

So, here goes an explanation, lol. A pair of these thing's I'm looking for have been used on one of our bedroom door handles. When the builders were doing snagging, we pointed out it was coming adrift of the door. They'd just used a normal half inch long screw into the door - far too short so when u twisted the handle it was hauling the screws out. SO the guy replaced it with these weird bolts. The rest of the house hasn't got them and they're slack or worse, falling off everywhere...most annoying in a barely 2yr old house!

The bolt goes straight thru from one side to the other on the door but because the handle has a push-on rose not unlike like this design....
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u...f/SZC010SC.jpg

...they are behind the rose and countersunk both ends. You can't remove them once fitted. I just tried doing that, so I could at least take a pic. The head end is slotted for a screwdriver and the 'nut' end has a phillips head. But i think the nut is just a serrated sleve and pushed onto the plain shank perhaps?

From memory it's about 4" long and he just snipped them to length with pliers, then pushed the cap on flush with the fitting under the rose.

PHEW!

Any ideas wot these little buggers are? Or something similar, otherwise someone will get stuck in the bog with a handle in their hand. :rolleyes:

tigersaw 22-05-10 08:29 PM

Re: Builders/Chippy's on here?
 
I was going to suggest these fellows,

http://forums.sv650.org/picture.php?...pictureid=4405

But re-reading its not them

These are cavity wall fittings, and behave like you describe, they expand in the cavity and wont come out again

Specialone 22-05-10 08:42 PM

Re: Builders/Chippy's on here?
 
Im sure i know what you mean, you also get them for joining kitchen cupboards together, screwfix sell them i think.

rotax81 22-05-10 09:19 PM

Re: Builders/Chippy's on here?
 
they are called inter screws.
screwfix only do them to about 40mm long if i remember.
they are an M4 thread so if you can get the sleeves and the screw is not long enough it shouldnt be too diffcult to find the male part long enough. (ooooerrr!!) lol
if i remember you can get longer ones from places like B&Q that fix cupboard handles onto units, these can be snipped to size.



edit: http://www.screwfix.com/prods/65152/...-M4-Pack-of-10

Philbo 22-05-10 10:16 PM

Re: Builders/Chippy's on here?
 
No chip shops then...

BOOOOOO!:smt088

Miss_Undaztood 22-05-10 10:20 PM

Re: Builders/Chippy's on here?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Philbo (Post 2275394)
No chip shops then...

BOOOOOO!:smt088

Typical jock, always thinking of chips. :-dd

(Brown sauce of course) ;)

Philbo 22-05-10 10:47 PM

Re: Builders/Chippy's on here?
 
Mmmm chips....

speedplay 23-05-10 11:09 AM

Re: Builders/Chippy's on here?
 
I know them as weag bolts.

That's if it's the ones that clamp the handles together through the door.
If it is these, pm me an address and how many you need and I'll post some over to you.

Quiff Wichard 23-05-10 11:24 AM

Re: Builders/Chippy's on here?
 
this place is ace innit.? I love it

Miss_Undaztood 23-05-10 11:52 AM

Re: Builders/Chippy's on here?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Quiff Wichard (Post 2275611)
this place is ace innit.? I love it

Sometimes. :)

haggis 23-05-10 12:26 PM

Re: Builders/Chippy's on here?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by speedplay (Post 2275600)
I know them as weag bolts.

That's if it's the ones that clamp the handles together through the door.
If it is these, pm me an address and how many you need and I'll post some over to you.

That would be very kind of you, so thanks. However, putting in 'weag bolt' to google images isn't coming up with anything. So, I'm not sure if they'd be the right thing.

Hahaha, it seems I'm not alone...
This guy describes the exact same senario.
http://www.diydoctor.org.uk/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2340

From that, I worked out the handles are probably made by Urfic, so went to their site and found a very similar if not identical design handle like this...

http://www.urfic.co.uk/urfic%20catal...%20rose%20.jpg
As you can see the rose has a cover that hides the bold heads. I've just emailed them to see what they can do for me. :rolleyes:

haggis 23-05-10 12:31 PM

Re: Builders/Chippy's on here?
 
Quiff, it's a case of "you scratch my back, i scratch yours".

If you can find me these bolts, I could ride down to yours and supply a ridiculously loud Tuono to annoy your narky neighbour at the BBQ! :D

speedplay 23-05-10 02:34 PM

Re: Builders/Chippy's on here?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by haggis (Post 2275635)
That would be very kind of you, so thanks. However, putting in 'weag bolt' to google images isn't coming up with anything.

I doubt it would come up on google, I think its just a bullsh!t term for a bolt with no name.

Probably named something like "door opening device,through fixing retainer"

I think its something like these that your after :-

http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/t...ay/25-4-10.jpg

Stuuk1 23-05-10 07:39 PM

Re: Builders/Chippy's on here?
 
If you are just after the screw and not the fitting with the internal thread, just go to an electrical wholesalers and ask for some 'brass M4 Screws'. Thats if it is a 4mm thread. I use them all the time. They arent a countersunk head but do have quite a small head that you could make fit.

Stuuk1 23-05-10 07:40 PM

Re: Builders/Chippy's on here?
 
I could however send you some if you like? I have a load at work, i'd just need to get a stamp and envelope..

haggis 23-05-10 07:57 PM

Re: Builders/Chippy's on here?
 
Oh my, thats the very babies! Thankyou, thankyou, thankyou speedplay!!!! :D

Did you just take your door apart?
If so, i apologise for destroying your house through the power of the internet, lol!

Are you sure you wont need them? They don't seem to be readily available so I wouldn't want you to be stuck without them sometime later. I'll need quite a few too, maybe 30?

haggis 23-05-10 08:05 PM

Re: Builders/Chippy's on here?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stuuk1 (Post 2275883)
If you are just after the screw and not the fitting with the internal thread...

Yep, i need them both. Kind of you to offer though mate. :D

Stuuk1 23-05-10 09:15 PM

Re: Builders/Chippy's on here?
 
After a good search which I gave up on twice... I found this:

http://www.sdslondon.co.uk/connectors.html

Stuuk1 23-05-10 09:16 PM

Re: Builders/Chippy's on here?
 
And this page of couse:

http://www.sdslondon.co.uk/m4-handle-screws.html


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