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Tadge 24-05-10 02:57 PM

Theory Test on Friday.
 
Firstly Hi all from a Noob and nice to meet you all / read your thoughts :smt039


I have my theory on Friday morning and currently swotting up using a dvd type thing from morrisons.

Hazard perception and the test itself seems pretty self explanitory but can any one tell me how "motorbike" related the majority of the questions are.

i.e. is it mainly like a car test with a few chucked in or are the questions predominantly bike related. . .

Any advice welcome !

dyzio 24-05-10 03:02 PM

Re: Theory Test on Friday . . .
 
Hello and welcome...

but...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tadge (Post 2276576)
how "motorbike" related the majority of the questions are.

i.e. is it mainly like a car test with a few chucked in or are the questions predominantly bike related. . .

you mean you have your theory test on Friday and haven't even looked at the test questions?

EDIT:

I think I was using this site: http://www.theory-test.co.uk/asp/default.asp
You can get a free test or full access for 5 quid or something like that.

Good luck

dizzyblonde 24-05-10 03:08 PM

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I did my bike theory six years ago, I just passed my car theory two weeks ago. Skankin gits charge for a test which has one or two different questions :-(
TBH I'm in the way of thinking the test is predominantly car based, with an odd question that is solely for bikes.

But they change the questions frequently so be sure not to be caught out!

ophic 24-05-10 03:08 PM

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Most of the questions the same as for the car theory, but there are some motorbike specific ones which you wouldn't know if you've only trained for car theory.

andrewsmith 24-05-10 03:47 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ophic (Post 2276591)
Most of the questions the same as for the car theory, but there are some motorbike specific ones which you wouldn't know if you've only trained for car theory.

As above!!! Thats pretty much it

Tadge 24-05-10 04:29 PM

Re: Theory Test on Friday . . .
 
Cheers Guys,

Yes I have checked through the questions but there are hundreds of possible general questions, I was curious mainly to the percentage of bikes ones and if I needed to concentrate on the general car ones as much. Guess drill them all in to be safe is the answer.

Didn’t have any of this theory stuff when I first learned to ride, pair of L plates and off you went with your life in your hands. I wasn’t even required to read the highwaycode technically.

This helps folks, cheers.

ChrisSV 24-05-10 04:32 PM

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Yeah theyre mainly car based, with a few questions about bikes, such as what to do with a visor instead of a windscreen.

TheRamJam 24-05-10 06:16 PM

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Good luck for the test ;)

Davadvice 24-05-10 06:21 PM

Re: Theory Test on Friday . . .
 
firstly good luck.

I would recomend getting the DVD rom for your pc and do the tests each night so you know what you are going in for.
I passed my test last year and can say that if you already drive it's a total pain and you spot the hazzard earlier than you would as a non-driver. i seemed to click too early.

again, good luck.

dizzyblonde 24-05-10 06:30 PM

Re: Theory Test on Friday . . .
 
I had the DVD for the bike hazard perception, but it refused to work on my POS player, so went in blind. I was a non driver, with little road experience as a rider.
I passed with three more points than this time, so not necessarily the case for over clicking. But that just proves I must be getting old ;-)

hongman 24-05-10 10:34 PM

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I've done both.

By bike orientated they mean just that. Side wind, chain adjustment, wheel alignment, tyre depth (1.6mm for car and 1mm for bike! I nearly got caught out on that lol), bike positioning on the road, etc.

Otherwise, its general road sense. With the hazard perception the videos are practically the same, except the rider is on a bike instead of a car :D

Good Luck!

jamesterror 24-05-10 10:36 PM

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Hi, did my theory last year I'd say 5/50 questions were bike related in my theory.

hongman 24-05-10 10:46 PM

Re: Theory Test on Friday . . .
 
Did mine a few weeks ago, (doubt the question bank has changed much in the last few years) and probably 1/4 was bike stuff.

Luck of the draw I suspect.

andrewsmith 25-05-10 08:15 AM

Re: Theory Test on Friday . . .
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hongman (Post 2277161)
Did mine a few weeks ago, (doubt the question bank has changed much in the last few years) and probably 1/4 was bike stuff.

Luck of the draw I suspect.

I think thats what it was for mine. The luck depends upon the centre also the bigger centres are more random as the bank is constantly being used

Tadge 25-05-10 09:34 AM

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Cheers folks, yep got the pc dvd rom type thingy, been very useful I have to admit. I feel a little more comfortable on what to expect now.

Time to :study:

thulfi 25-05-10 10:24 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tadge (Post 2277407)
Cheers folks, yep got the pc dvd rom type thingy, been very useful I have to admit. I feel a little more comfortable on what to expect now.

Time to :study:

Did you get the official DVD which includes all the questions that can come up. It actually aint that much and very useful. I just went through the sections, the ones I got wrong just get tagged.

Then just look at the ones you got wrong the first time on some random other day and you'll be all sorted for sure cos you won't forget 'em.

I passed my car theory first time and that did include hazard perception.

I failed the hazard perception for bike theory once though and had to retake. It's a joke of a system with the most ridiculously obvious hazards on each clip, and half the time you end up clicking 'too early' so it doesn't register or you click too much to try and make sure you cover the part they mean and get 0 for clicking too much.

It's a useless form of testing peoples hazard perception and resulted in pointless dosh wasteage on a retake for me.


Gd luck.

dizzyblonde 25-05-10 05:38 PM

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People failing their theory is something I never got my head round. Its pi$$ easy!

If you fail your hazard perception, it means you really aren't watching what you are doing. Its not a case of clicking too early, its a case of being trigger happy when you eventually notice what you are supposed to. Its not a useless form of testing, its perhaps you who aren't that aware enough.

There was a poor lass that had failed her test, by one point, when I went to do the one for the car recently. TBH she'd had a bit of a bad time with her health, and the one she'd passed previously had lapsed.

Davadvice 25-05-10 06:22 PM

Re: Theory Test on Friday.
 
it's only **** easy if you have no idea how to ride or drive, try doing it again after driving or riding for 15 years and then tell me the HP is easy.

I noticed the hazzard too early as will you. I hope. the deffinition of a hazzard is only when it becomes a hazzard and as a driver for 15 years that is difficult as your natural instict is to react before it becomes a hazzard. a kid playing with a ball, a person walking between a car three car lenghts away and a car pulling out of a side road(i don't know why but the way a car aproaches can tell you he/she's going to pull out, you just know). all these things caught me out.

From what you are saying it seems like uni grad syndrome.

dizzyblonde 25-05-10 06:35 PM

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I did them with a gap of six years. The six years between was as a rider only. Prior to the first one, I had only been riding a couple of months or three.
Perhaps my awareness is heightened as I have only ever been a motorcyclist.. I've only been driving a car six weeks. Many people I know who have driven for years, then ridden a bike, say they really didn't realise how unaware a car makes you until you get on a bike.
I got 48/50 on the questions and 69/75 for the HP this time.

BTW I've never been to uni. ;-)

hongman 25-05-10 06:40 PM

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I did them 5 years apart, and other way round :)

Tadge 25-05-10 10:50 PM

Re: Theory Test on Friday . . .
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thulfi (Post 2277447)
Did you get the official DVD which includes all the questions that can come up.

Nah but got a one that claims to use all the official questions as well as hazard perception clips etc. Was about a fiver from Morrison's and seems to be just the job.

So far pretty much common sense and schoolboy roadcraft for an "experienced driver" but been caught out on one or two I don't mind admitting.

If it gets me through five quid well flippin spent !

I am surprised at the amount of current questions around Trams however. . . Bizzare :eek:

rictus01 25-05-10 11:03 PM

Re: Theory Test on Friday.
 
I've never done a theory test at all, I've helped a few through the practical test in the past, but generally left them to their DVD's and stuff themselves, just out of curiosity I've just done a mock bike test online and got 50/50 and found it relatively easy.

Best of luck for friday.

Cheers Mark

thulfi 26-05-10 03:56 AM

Re: Theory Test on Friday.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dizzyblonde (Post 2277830)
If you fail your hazard perception, it means you really aren't watching what you are doing. Its not a case of clicking too early, its a case of being trigger happy when you eventually notice what you are supposed to. Its not a useless form of testing, its perhaps you who aren't that aware enough.

No trust me it isn't me being too trigger happy, it's me noticing the most horrendously obvious hazards and perhaps not clicking at the right time whatever that is supposed to be. For loads of the hazards, it was obvious which one it would be before if had even happened.

The hazard perception is fairly limited in my view, and doesn't really challenge people enough as they're all easy.

Afterall, I passed my hazard perception first time round for car theory as a teenager, and flopped it after 6 years of driving under my belt when I went to do the motorcycle test.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Davadvice (Post 2277877)
it's only **** easy if you have no idea how to ride or drive, try doing it again after driving or riding for 15 years and then tell me the HP is easy.

I noticed the hazzard too early as will you.

+1

Geodude 26-05-10 09:10 AM

Re: Theory Test on Friday.
 
Good luck on the theory test on friday tadge mate :)

Amplimator 26-05-10 09:27 AM

Re: Theory Test on Friday.
 
i too brought the DVD-rom from morrisons for 5.99. it was exactly same questions and pics as that of the actual theory just a slightly different layout, hence why i got 100% ;)

good luck fella :thumbsup:

TazDaz 26-05-10 09:56 AM

Re: Theory Test on Friday.
 
It's near enough common sense tbh...for my car one I forgot I had it booked (as it was booked for me as a present), so basically turned up with no revision and still only got 1 or 2 wrong. The bike theory was near enough the same with a few "bikey" questions thrown into the mix.

Davadvice 27-05-10 07:04 PM

Re: Theory Test on Friday.
 
good luck tomorrow with the test mate.

ophic 27-05-10 09:07 PM

Re: Theory Test on Friday.
 
Aye best of luck. Fingers crossed for ya.

Tadge 27-05-10 09:53 PM

Re: Theory Test on Friday.
 
Thanks for all the support and advice peeps . . . tomorrow will tell . . .

Tadge 28-05-10 02:56 PM

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Dunno what I was worried about ;o)

DSA catagorised question bank on the disk was 100% spot on. Hazard perception was more a case of knowing how the test works as opposed to hazard perception. Could have done with a bit more practice on the test videos but walked it regardless.

Real lessons start on Thursday . . . . just need me some decent protective troosers and I am ready to go !

_Stretchie_ 28-05-10 02:57 PM

Re: Theory Test on Friday.
 
Well done mate, another step closer
; )

dyzio 28-05-10 03:00 PM

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=D>

Geodude 28-05-10 03:50 PM

Re: Theory Test on Friday.
 
Nice one Tadge, well done mate. When you start training at Ace dont use the bike i crashed heh ;)

andrewsmith 28-05-10 09:30 PM

Re: Theory Test on Friday.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Geodude (Post 2281259)
Nice one Tadge, well done mate. When you start training at Ace dont use the bike i crashed heh ;)

well done!!!

The amount of times that they'll be dropped. lol

Dropped two at low speed at Newcastle rider

Davadvice 29-05-10 05:32 AM

Re: Theory Test on Friday.
 
well done...

orose 29-05-10 06:11 AM

Re: Theory Test on Friday.
 
Can someone explain to me how this hazard perception test works?

The stuff I'm reading from candidates in threads like this seems to be different to what instructors are saying you need to do to pass, so can someone fill in those of us who haven't taken the test on the sort of scenarios you see?

madnlooney 29-05-10 06:47 AM

Re: Theory Test on Friday.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by orose (Post 2281596)
Can someone explain to me how this hazard perception test works?

The stuff I'm reading from candidates in threads like this seems to be different to what instructors are saying you need to do to pass, so can someone fill in those of us who haven't taken the test on the sort of scenarios you see?


you see a short clip and at any time you see a hazard you click. Then you get scored between 1-5, 5 being the highest depending on how quick you saw the selected one

dizzyblonde 29-05-10 06:54 AM

Re: Theory Test on Friday.
 
Welll done. Easy!

Ollie, thing is as above, but you do get to watch a vid before doing the hazard perception anyway of what you are are expected to do, so if you have a brain its not hard to work out. The clips are a bit grainy, and they are pretty slow, so its more a concentration to keep up with the naff filming than anything!

orose 29-05-10 06:55 AM

Re: Theory Test on Friday.
 
I was thinking more about the clips you see - it appears that people are clicking too early, so I'm wondering what might make people think the hazard is present when it isn't fully developed yet (in the eyes of the examiner)

dizzyblonde 29-05-10 07:02 AM

Re: Theory Test on Friday.
 
Sometimes its because in the example clip they say
'see the pedestrian on the left, or see the dog' etc they circle what you should be looking at, so, naturally when you are watching the real one, they have alsorts of things that could be a potential hazard, driveway, person walking...and they automatically think...ooo hazard,,,clicky, but its not the hazard at all!
Thats how I see it being the problem, but then I don't seem to have had that issue with over clicking.


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